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Author Topic: HH BUG GOT ME - Part Two!  (Read 472634 times)

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Re: HH BUG GOT ME - Part Two!
« Reply #4620 on: August 07, 2017, 08:08:00 PM »
This is truly an amazing shooting bow.  I am so spoiled.

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Re: HH BUG GOT ME - Part Two!
« Reply #4621 on: August 07, 2017, 08:42:00 PM »
I knew you would like it!  The dual shelf is unique.

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Re: HH BUG GOT ME - Part Two!
« Reply #4622 on: August 08, 2017, 04:02:00 PM »
I have gone the one bow route, and find that shooting only my Legendstick my accuracy has improved. It was tough at first to go from about 30 ASLs to one, but I'm glad I did. Now I buy and if I think the "new" bow has enough to replace my old bow, I send the old one packing, if it doesn't someone gets a good deal on a bow! Beautiful bow Pavan!

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Re: HH BUG GOT ME - Part Two!
« Reply #4623 on: August 08, 2017, 07:15:00 PM »
Congrats Larry!
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Re: HH BUG GOT ME - Part Two!
« Reply #4624 on: August 08, 2017, 09:13:00 PM »
Great shooting with that new bow, Larry.  You are entitled to brag!

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Re: HH BUG GOT ME - Part Two!
« Reply #4625 on: August 08, 2017, 10:09:00 PM »
Not bragging because I wasn't really aiming.  Aiming at nocks already in the target can cause lazy eye and lots of broken nocks.  I sort of look at gaps in between stuff or individual arrow holes.  It is a big target, so I spread the love around a bit.  Now if I get my hands on someone good witha video camera and especially adding a good coin tosser, the ones that can tossed the coin so good that they can toss in front of an on coming arrow, then,  I will be bragging.  But truth be told, it is all up to the coin tosser and he or she is the one that should be bragging.  You have to be exceptional to be able to hit a moving arrow with a coin.

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Re: HH BUG GOT ME - Part Two!
« Reply #4626 on: August 09, 2017, 07:38:00 PM »
A buckskinner that lives in a teepee part of the year is coming over for a bow and some arrows.  I am not sure whether he would prefer my pig nut hickory, my 70" Kodiak Special or something else like one of my other longbows.  He is a strong slim guy that cuts down trees with hand tools and builds stuff with only hand tools, just for the work and the challenge. I am thinking that he may have a longer draw than me, he is about 5'11".  I am thinking he may go for the pig nut, but I may need to adjust it to a longer draw and  lighter pull weight.

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Re: HH BUG GOT ME - Part Two!
« Reply #4627 on: August 11, 2017, 08:18:00 PM »
Here is my Dale Phillips Nodebow, next to my Kimsha Mattawoman II.  Some people have called my Mattawoman a Hill bow because of the strung profile, but Id consider it a hybridized Hill influenced bow or something along those lines, though I havent actually confirmed this with Tom at Kimsha.

I guess Dale Phillips was a bowyer for Howard Hill back in the late '40s or early '50s.  The Nodebow is 3 bamboo lams with a walnut riser.  I got it from Tom Parsons.  It was a lefty, Tom told me to cut it into a righty.  My geometry of the new sight window isnt exactly like the original, and my new grip came out a bit off center, but it shoots great.

It has some string follow; I think thats the right term.

You can see what looks like Hill style broadheads in the emblem.

 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: HH BUG GOT ME - Part Two!
« Reply #4628 on: August 11, 2017, 09:00:00 PM »
That node bow is pretty darn cool!!

The Kimsha is a mild deflex-reflex that braces to a D shape.  They are sweet.  Call me not a purist but as much as I enjoy Hill bows I love a good mild D/R bow.
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Re: HH BUG GOT ME - Part Two!
« Reply #4629 on: August 11, 2017, 09:17:00 PM »
Yeah just a casual glance at the Kimsha bows braced profile seems like a D, thats what gets people, along with the almost straight grip shape.  I think I am starting to like the true Hill bows, Just need to find a lighter draw.  That 58# gets heavy with lots of shooting, as I discovered when I went and shot Sawmill this year.  Maybe need about 43# or so.
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Re: HH BUG GOT ME - Part Two!
« Reply #4630 on: August 11, 2017, 09:33:00 PM »
I have a 43# @ 29" Mattawoman, just a great shooter and a favorite of mine.
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Re: HH BUG GOT ME - Part Two!
« Reply #4631 on: August 12, 2017, 05:20:00 PM »
That lower limb looks like it has a bit of a hinge to it?  Or is it the pictures?

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Re: HH BUG GOT ME - Part Two!
« Reply #4632 on: August 12, 2017, 07:24:00 PM »
I think its the angle of the picture coupled with the shape of the bamboo at one of the nodes.  Ive noticed it too, but it seems to shoot just fine.  When drawn, the tiller seems the even out, with that spot being a bit stiffer to compensate.
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Re: HH BUG GOT ME - Part Two!
« Reply #4633 on: August 15, 2017, 03:22:00 PM »
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[QB] Hill wrote that his arrow travels from right to left in his sight line. He anchored past the corner of his mouth with the bow canted.  The further one is from the target the less degree that will appear to be.   With bows that are less center shot, I cant the bow more.  When Hill wrote that his bows were not at all center shot, they never were center shot, probably in his pre-fiberglass days.  He added the little leather foots as an arrow rest because his bows did not have much if any sight window cut outs. Staying away from that silly paradox theory stuff, Hill acknowledged his arrow position, according to his writing, although John Schulz said that he never taught that to him in the 50s. I suppose that over time the secondary 'imaginary' aiming point becomes instinctive, but over time the normal hand/eye coordination subconsciously develops a similar

Re: "with bows that are less center shot, I cant the bow more"

Good tip Paven.  I tried that with my Morning Star yesterday and it seemed to help.
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Re: HH BUG GOT ME - Part Two!
« Reply #4634 on: August 26, 2017, 08:17:00 AM »
Any Hill Kills?

Been chasing  skwerls, groundhogs here!

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Re: HH BUG GOT ME - Part Two!
« Reply #4635 on: August 26, 2017, 12:20:00 PM »
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Any Hill Kills?

Been chasing  skwerls, groundhogs here!
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Re: HH BUG GOT ME - Part Two!
« Reply #4636 on: August 26, 2017, 12:56:00 PM »
I took a bunch of shots, 12 or so, at one critter at 18 or 20 yards.  Clean misses every shot.  It got to where I would have felt bad if I hit him. I tend to get a little personal sometimes.  I strained my shoulder and elbow fighting with my larger combination ladder and was advised to not do anything like paint my house or shoot bow for a couple of weeks.  My critter friend will be safe for a while, But bunny and dove season is coming, I will lay off my 300 arrows a day ritual, but my injuries are lift related, not the bow pulling tendons, so I will get after those on cooler days.

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Re: HH BUG GOT ME - Part Two!
« Reply #4637 on: September 02, 2017, 06:59:00 PM »
I just gave up the best right hand only bow that I have ever owned, my 60@27 68" custom lay up yew/bamboo Hill blank.  I found someone that could shoot it.
 

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Re: HH BUG GOT ME - Part Two!
« Reply #4638 on: September 09, 2017, 11:21:00 AM »
Let's get this back on my the first page where it truly belongs. Shooting lots lately with my Chek-Mate yew golden hawk given to me as a present from my wife back in the mid 80s have had many. asls over the years but there's just something about this bow,I can't explain it.its way heavier than I like to shoot but it seams Ido shoot it well.its way to hot up here in Sask right now and still so many crops standing.hopefully cool weather is coming and we can get hunting.
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Re: HH BUG GOT ME - Part Two!
« Reply #4639 on: September 12, 2017, 04:23:00 PM »
Steve an odd request, if you don't mind. Years ago I had the chance to shoot a Chek-Mate recurve at the Sioux City trad shoot.  Guys were standing around talking about how good the Chek-Mates shot.  This particular one was like a longer version of a Bear Grizzly. No Grizzly ever shot that good, they were right. I am not familiar with a yew longbow Chek-Mate and am curious what they look like.

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