Ah, so Ron you are saying that you can shoot your longbow like you shoot your recurve. I am a true believer in the teaching of John Schulz, I am stating that I cannot shoot my recurve just like I shoot my longbows. I know my longbow form is correct for my longbows. I was rather surprised with my results, my first target work since my wife broke her arm. I cannot shoot a recurve with the bent bow arm and the low wrist comes naturally to me, taking the pressure off of the heel and wedging up with the bow hand is a freaky feeling thing for me, stiff and clumsy. I tried to give that recurve away, but the dirty bugger first bought a slightly lighter recurve and sold that and then bought a Hill longbow. Back on the bow rack.