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Re: HH BUG GOT ME - Part Two!
« Reply #5500 on: July 23, 2020, 05:55:54 PM »
Very nice. I hope to try a forward handle bow someday. Honestly I hate the look. Lol. But am open to trying one.
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Re: HH BUG GOT ME - Part Two!
« Reply #5501 on: July 24, 2020, 01:52:07 PM »
I’m with you too Tim. I don’t really like the look of a forward handle ASL bow but I am willing to try anything that will help an average shot like me

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Re: HH BUG GOT ME - Part Two!
« Reply #5502 on: July 24, 2020, 02:02:18 PM »
I started out feeling that way too, but it has kinda grown on me, especially after shooting a few of these bows.
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Re: HH BUG GOT ME - Part Two!
« Reply #5503 on: July 24, 2020, 02:16:38 PM »
Hey Sam ... which forward handle bows have you shot ?

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Re: HH BUG GOT ME - Part Two!
« Reply #5504 on: July 24, 2020, 08:44:41 PM »
I love my traditional ASL’s, but forward handles are like shooting with training wheels on:

Howard Hill:



JD Berry:



Northern Mist:



Benoit:



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Re: HH BUG GOT ME - Part Two!
« Reply #5505 on: July 24, 2020, 09:33:49 PM »
I like the forward Handel ASL’s :thumbsup:
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Re: HH BUG GOT ME - Part Two!
« Reply #5506 on: July 29, 2020, 05:34:08 PM »
I really hated the look of a forward handle/reverse handle for a long time, but they have definitely grown on me. Never owned one but I like they way they shoot!

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Re: HH BUG GOT ME - Part Two!
« Reply #5507 on: August 02, 2020, 01:55:37 PM »
Just finished these tapered cedar arrows for my cheetah. Man I’m so happy with how they turned out.
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Re: HH BUG GOT ME - Part Two!
« Reply #5508 on: August 02, 2020, 01:57:17 PM »
One more
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Re: HH BUG GOT ME - Part Two!
« Reply #5509 on: August 02, 2020, 02:24:21 PM »
Nice work.  They look great.
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Re: HH BUG GOT ME - Part Two!
« Reply #5510 on: August 02, 2020, 02:33:19 PM »
Took my new to me Northern Mist Classic to a 3-D yesterday, 70" 48#@ 30, I did pretty good. I like the bow!!
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Re: HH BUG GOT ME - Part Two!
« Reply #5511 on: August 02, 2020, 06:57:41 PM »
I have only shot a couple of forward handle bows. One was an HHA bow, but don't recall what their forward handle is called. Also, I have shot a couple of Steve's Ramers, and I would order one if I could afford it. It is funny how the mind works sometimes. A forward handle bow looks weird so, therefore, it can't be a good idea. Then you finally try one and realize that it is a great performer, thus changing it from the ugly duckling to the regal swan. At least, that's how it worked for me.
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Re: HH BUG GOT ME - Part Two!
« Reply #5512 on: August 04, 2020, 08:49:52 AM »
Sam,
I am blessed to have a Ramer coming in a few months, I go to the NM site every night just looking. You make a good point on the "ugly duckling to a beautiful swan". the longer I look at forward handle the better they look. Also if it helps with my accuracy then I will be very happy. Steve T. is certainly in demand and I hated to wait the 6 months but he's hot for a reason and went with that...

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Re: HH BUG GOT ME - Part Two!
« Reply #5513 on: August 13, 2020, 11:18:02 AM »
I am a new Howard Hill bow shooter. I just received from HH Archery a 68” Wesley Special, 50 x 28. With a straight grip. I have been shooting a Black Widow PMAIII recurve for five years. I am trying to understand how to grip this type of bow. I am a right handed shooter. Currently I try to position the Top of the back part of the grip Centered in the web between my thumb and first finger, which places the center or spine of the grip sitting just to the left of my lifeline on my left hand. The bottom of the grip rests on the heel of my hand directly under my little finger. This feels comfortable. Is this the right position? I read that Howard Hill said you should hold the bow like you would pickup a suite case. I have Also read that others say that the knuckles of your bow hand should be at a 45 degree. Suggestions please.

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Re: HH BUG GOT ME - Part Two!
« Reply #5514 on: August 13, 2020, 11:26:18 AM »
Welcome to the club.  Here are some helpful links to get you started.

This is a great video on the whole process:



Dick Wightman’s website also has a lot of great stuff.  I always liked this article about gripping the bow:

http://www.dickwightman.com/howardhill/hillgrip/hillgrip.html
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Re: HH BUG GOT ME - Part Two!
« Reply #5515 on: August 13, 2020, 02:34:55 PM »
Thanks for sending this. I appreciate it very much. I am also in the process of experimenting with different spine weights for wood arrows so I can determine which one will shoot the best. On a 50 lb. draw weight at 28” I’m thinking that a spine of 60lbs might be the right combination. I shot some arrows that were 52 to 55 and they were hitting nock left which means weak spine. I will try 60 next and see if they straighten up. Any suggestions on what arrow spine works for you and what the range should be for a 50 x 28 bow?

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Re: HH BUG GOT ME - Part Two!
« Reply #5516 on: August 13, 2020, 03:31:08 PM »
Your grip sounds pretty good, at a slight angle to the bow if I interpret it correctly.  The other thing to keep in mind is to not grip it too hard.  Let the grip find its home in your hand and then gently close your fingers around it and draw. 

To keep from squeezing too hard and/or putting too much pressure toward the top of the grip, some folks recommend doing most of the "gripping/holding" with the bottom two fingers of your bow hand.  Try it and see what you think. 

I usually overspine my bows by 5-10#, particularly if I have a low stretch string on the bow.  Depends a bit on the diameter of your shaft and point weight, but I think you'll be good with 55-60#

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Re: HH BUG GOT ME - Part Two!
« Reply #5517 on: August 13, 2020, 03:57:01 PM »
Thanks for your help.

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Re: HH BUG GOT ME - Part Two!
« Reply #5518 on: August 13, 2020, 07:42:41 PM »
For what it’s worth, my 52# Morningstar and 55# Shelton both seem to like 29” 55/60 Surewood with 160 grain heads.  I am not that great of a shot with a longbow yet, but I did break nock yesterday :goldtooth:
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Re: HH BUG GOT ME - Part Two!
« Reply #5519 on: August 13, 2020, 07:58:26 PM »
But the reverse handle bows shoot so nice.
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