HH BUG GOT ME - Part Two!

[Hermon]

Originally posted by bigb3303:
Ok so I ordered me a hill style bow from maddog archery, so I guess the hill bug got me!     I shoot carbons right now, should I swich to wood to have a beter paradox around the bow?

Is this a new model for him?  Didn't know he was building a Hill style.  Looking forward to pictures.

[bigb3303]

No not a new model, that I am away of. He was going to build me the a R/D longbow, and I asked him about "hill style" bows, and he said he could build that for me also, so thats what I chose, So I have a bow for the hog hunt. Says it should be finished before Christmas SO I will post pics as soon as it is! I cant wait.

[Bud B.]

Yep...if Mike goes to building a Hill style I'm in trouble!!

Pics please when you can.

[Skates]

You guys sure are serious.  Might have to get in on an HH.

[Ric O'Shay]

Skates -

Serious is as serious does. Once you go Hill, you won't go back.


   

[bigb3303]

So any advice on using wood over carbon arrows on a hill style bow?

[Blaino]

bigb- any tuned arrow will fly out of a hill bow no matter if it is carbon, aluminum, wood, or cane.... they all work great if tuned to the bow.  Shoot what you want.  I like wood because it's crazy quiet and it feels right to me.

[bigb3303]

Alright, I have always been a fan off wood, but I like the tuffness of carbons. Thanks for the info! Can I paper tune a hill bow the same as a recurve?

[far rider]

There are many wood options that can give you a "tuff" arrow. You may want to look at Alleghany Arrow Woods,   http://www.arrowwoods.com/index.htm  
Ash, Hickory, and even shafts from purple heart or bloodwood can be found these days giving you a variety of weights and varying degrees of toughness.

Ron La Clair offers ash and hickory I believe, (unsure), as I'm sure other arrow builder sponsors on here.

I'm just saying that if you like woodies, but your timid about their ability to withstand punishment, there are options. Ash is a fine example, plus there are the Surewood shafts that are VERY tuff.

I'm like you, it just feels "more traditional" to use woodies, but I have to tell on myself a little when I say I've shot Gold Tip Traditional in my Wesley and they shoot REALLY good.

[bicster]

I use paper tuning along with the planing method on all of my bows including my Howard Hill.

[Mike Mecredy]

I don't normally make straight limbed bows, but if a customer asks me to I'll try and accommodate what they want if it's with in my capability.

I've only made a few straight longbows.  Most of them have been pup sized longbows that I make for the Howard Hill Birthday giveaways.

[Overspined]

I have carbons that work for 2 Hill bows, and never use them.  It's a mess with all the tinkering with parts, inserts, mounting glue heads on screw threads..ugh.  They are easy to get overspined, and then you are adding 100's of grains up front...nocks don't fit...list goes on IMO.  They are strong and straight though for sure. I also hear lot of nock high issues.  Tractor tires don't agree with them either.

It's so easy, traditional, and great looking to stick to woodies!! Arrow, point, glue, heat. Hardwoods can be a lot more work too..

[Butch Speer]

Once you know what you need for them the carbons are very easy to duplicate. They're easy made, and straight. I find they are very easy to tune and forgiving in spine and comes out of paradox faster which can help with penetration. Not putting down wood arrows. I just don't worry about being "traditional". I want to use what works best. For me.

[Brianlocal3]

I'm a firm believer in carbons. I do have a couple dozen woodies here that I shoot occasionally but for me its hard to beat the ease of tunning, and endless possibilities with carbons.
I have some as light as 8.5 GPP and just 1/2" longer than my draw and I have some 3" longer than my draw that come in at 12 GPP. I also shoot some that come in right around 10 GPP.  

They are trusty, forgiving, accurate and extremely durable. I love carbons.

[Bud B.]

Originally posted by Mike Mecredy:
I don't normally make straight limbed bows, but if a customer asks me to I'll try and accommodate what they want if it's with in my capability.

I've only made a few straight longbows.  Most of them have been pup sized longbows that I make for the Howard Hill Birthday giveaways.

Good to know Mike.

If you have some pics you don't mind sharing I'm sure many of us would love to see them.

[bigb3303]

I' can't wait to get my bow from mike! He has great customer service btw! I hope to take a hog with it on the hill hunt! Or a squirrel hahah

[far rider]

Once the excitement wears off, snap a few pictures and post them on here. We always like to see new bows!!!

[Overspined]

Originally posted by Brianlocal3:
I'm a firm believer in carbons. I do have a couple dozen woodies here that I shoot occasionally but for me its hard to beat the ease of tunning, and endless possibilities with carbons.
I have some as light as 8.5 GPP and just 1/2" longer than my draw and I have some 3" longer than my draw that come in at 12 GPP. I also shoot some that come in right around 10 GPP.  

They are trusty, forgiving, accurate and extremely durable. I love carbons.

I guess if they were that easy to tune for me I'd like carbons more too.  Endless possibilities means endless tuning when I hear it.       They don't seem nearly as forgiving as wood or aluminum from Hill style bows.  One day I think I have a combo tuned, and the next they are kicking again one way or another. Granted, I am a perfectionist.  I'm sure it is an easy fix but I just gave up and went back to wood.  I find it simple and only feel I give up durability when shooting in the woods at 3D as woodies will only take so much...i will say I love carbons from a curve though.

[Butch Speer]

Originally posted by Overspined:
 

Originally posted by Brianlocal3:
I'm a firm believer in carbons. I do have a couple dozen woodies here that I shoot occasionally but for me its hard to beat the ease of tunning, and endless possibilities with carbons.
I have some as light as 8.5 GPP and just 1/2" longer than my draw and I have some 3" longer than my draw that come in at 12 GPP. I also shoot some that come in right around 10 GPP.  

They are trusty, forgiving, accurate and extremely durable. I love carbons.

I guess if they were that easy to tune for me I'd like carbons more too.  Endless possibilities means endless tuning when I hear it.        They don't seem nearly as forgiving as wood or aluminum from Hill style bows.  One day I think I have a combo tuned, and the next they are kicking again one way or another. Granted, I am a perfectionist.  I'm sure it is an easy fix but I just gave up and went back to wood.  I find it simple and only feel I give up durability when shooting in the woods at 3D as woodies will only take so much...i will say I love carbons from a curve though. [/b]

Overspined,
I hear ya. Some people just aren't into tinkering. If I could find straight bamboo at a decent price. That's all I'd ever use.

Nothing messes with me more than shooting arrows that are way over my draw. I keep my broadhead arrows so I draw right to my finger and my blunts are right to my finger on the forward edge. If mix a practice session in with long or out of weight arrows, I will need to practice with broadheads before I go hunting or limit myself to shots less than 20 yards. Besides those cedars I have fly as perfect as anything can get, so what would be the point in loading a quiver full of ten dollar a piece arrows when there are pheasants to be shot at.