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Author Topic: HH BUG GOT ME - Part Two!  (Read 471186 times)

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Re: HH BUG GOT ME - Part Two!
« Reply #5780 on: February 03, 2022, 03:33:00 PM »
i would love to hear feedback on what folks are finding with regards to spine for their HH style bows.
is it generally same spine shafts as is the poundage of the bow, @ 28" with 125 gr points.
unlike selfbows that are 5# less and modern longbows being 5# more

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Re: HH BUG GOT ME - Part Two!
« Reply #5781 on: February 04, 2022, 02:22:57 AM »
About spine and various longbows. It varies, depends on how an individual releases and any particular bow. Many longbows prefer a softer spine in carbon, when an aluminum is too stiff it will readily show bad arrow flight. However, some longbows will shoot stiffer aluminums and woods. I have one 55@26 bow that is 3/8" outside of center, a left or right hand duo shooter, the charts would say because of my 26&1/4" draw, 27" bop and its outside of center that it would that it should shoot a 40 pound spine. I tried a 40-45 cedar with a 125 grain head. It snapped and I got lucky. It likes 27" bop 1918s with a 160 grain point on a glue-on insert of 38 grains and 60 pound spine Doug Firs with 160 grain heads.  I had a Big River 60@26 it was cut to near center and 2018s were way too stiff for it with any head, but 50-55s with 160 grain heads were perfect. I suggest getting or building three separate test spine cedar shafts from five pounds under to ten pounds over and do not cut them longer than needed. There a lot of great 160 grain heads that will soften the spine 5 pounds if they seem a little stiff.

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Re: HH BUG GOT ME - Part Two!
« Reply #5782 on: February 04, 2022, 09:08:30 AM »
Fujimo, a lot of archers shooting Hill style bows do find that that with a 28" draw and a 125 grain point, their bow likes a spine weight of the bow's draw weight. But, as Larry Dean noted, there are a number of other factors that may come into play. My draw is very short, but I like long arrows with a 125 grain point. I get good arrow flight on my 53 # NM Shelton that I am only drawing 25". Oddly, it shoots 50-55# arrows well, and shoots 55 -60# also very well. I have had numerous others indicate their bows do well with multiple spine ranges also.
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Re: HH BUG GOT ME - Part Two!
« Reply #5783 on: February 12, 2022, 02:47:53 PM »
Hi guys. I currently have a Northern Mist classic 51@28”, I draw 28”.
I shoot  2016’s out of it.
I will be getting 2 more Classics , 45#, and 47#. Will the same 2016  arrow be compatible?
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Re: HH BUG GOT ME - Part Two!
« Reply #5784 on: February 12, 2022, 07:44:36 PM »
Fujimo, a lot of archers shooting Hill style bows do find that that with a 28" draw and a 125 grain point, their bow likes a spine weight of the bow's draw weight. But, as Larry Dean noted, there are a number of other factors that may come into play. My draw is very short, but I like long arrows with a 125 grain point. I get good arrow flight on my 53 # NM Shelton that I am only drawing 25". Oddly, it shoots 50-55# arrows well, and shoots 55 -60# also very well. I have had numerous others indicate their bows do well with multiple spine ranges also.

Thanks Sam, that for affirming my thoughts.
 i was just wanting to generate a spine chart for the HH style  bows for our website.

obviously spine charts are just a starting point, as said, there are a lot of variables that will vary from setup to setup.

just  a handy starting point.

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Re: HH BUG GOT ME - Part Two!
« Reply #5785 on: February 12, 2022, 08:23:46 PM »
Frassettor, I have a 68” NM Classic that is 45 @ 28” and it will shoot 2016s, but 1916s and 45/50 woodies seem to fly better for me. My draw is 28.5” on strait limbed Hill style bows …

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Re: HH BUG GOT ME - Part Two!
« Reply #5786 on: February 12, 2022, 09:54:32 PM »
Mike, in my experience you arrow  should work just fine.  Tha'ts what I shoot off my Hill Ol' One Shot.  Have fun.  Gee Whizz . . .
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Re: HH BUG GOT ME - Part Two!
« Reply #5787 on: March 13, 2022, 06:47:42 AM »
Ttt
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Re: HH BUG GOT ME - Part Two!
« Reply #5788 on: March 13, 2022, 07:24:50 AM »
Congrats on your new bow.  Cheetahs are such great looking bows. 
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Re: HH BUG GOT ME - Part Two!
« Reply #5789 on: March 14, 2022, 11:31:33 PM »
I agree with Evan.  That bow is stunning!  Good choice.  Have fun with it and win a lot of trophies, and put a lot of meat on the ground!  Gary . . .
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Re: HH BUG GOT ME - Part Two!
« Reply #5791 on: March 23, 2022, 09:30:48 PM »
I’m up real soon for new bow build with Steve Turay at Northern Mist. The only thing that I HAVE decided on is a length of 66”. Still torn between a Classic and a Shelton. BTW, Shelton is my Father’s name! Torn between a look like the old Schulz American longbows of old (dark myrtle riser with very dark brown glass on the back and white glass on the belly. Tempered bamboo limb cores and a semi gloss finish) OR a dark reddish hardwood riser, tempered bamboo limb cores and a veneer that’s lighter in color in contrast! Ah...what to do ? HELP!

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Re: HH BUG GOT ME - Part Two!
« Reply #5792 on: March 23, 2022, 10:07:12 PM »
I’m up real soon for new bow build with Steve Turay at Northern Mist. The only thing that I HAVE decided on is a length of 66”. Still torn between a Classic and a Shelton. BTW, Shelton is my Father’s name! Torn between a look like the old Schulz American longbows of old (dark myrtle riser with very dark brown glass on the back and white glass on the belly. Tempered bamboo limb cores and a semi gloss finish) OR a dark reddish hardwood riser, tempered bamboo limb cores and a veneer that’s lighter in color in contrast! Ah...what to do ? HELP!

My opinion, after having both, get the Classic. It's a little snappier and quicker without being harsh in the least. I don't think it gives up anything to a Shelton at all.

And get the shorter "old school" riser. It looks better, more proportional, and more classic IMO and gives you a fuzz longer working limb.

His gloss finish is the nicest and most durable I have ever had on a bow. If you like shiny bows, it's a must-do.

I've had all his bows, and have a Classic that was built for me, and if I could do it over again that's what I'd get.
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Re: HH BUG GOT ME - Part Two!
« Reply #5793 on: March 23, 2022, 10:26:33 PM »
Thanks limbshaker! BTW, what woods and specs are in your Classic?

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Re: HH BUG GOT ME - Part Two!
« Reply #5794 on: March 24, 2022, 05:49:33 AM »
Gray glass is cool. Nice bow Tony!
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Re: HH BUG GOT ME - Part Two!
« Reply #5795 on: March 24, 2022, 09:48:57 AM »
Thanks Tim!  Never thought I would like anything other than clear or caramel.  Gray might be the gateway to white lol.
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Re: HH BUG GOT ME - Part Two!
« Reply #5796 on: March 25, 2022, 03:48:51 PM »
Lol. Not sure I could do white but gray i for sure could. When your bored of it let me know;) same with the brown Tembo!!!!  :goldtooth:
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Re: HH BUG GOT ME - Part Two!
« Reply #5797 on: March 26, 2022, 07:29:39 PM »
Lol. Not sure I could do white but gray i for sure could. When your bored of it let me know;) same with the brown Tembo!!!!  :goldtooth:



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Re: HH BUG GOT ME - Part Two!
« Reply #5798 on: April 02, 2022, 07:21:47 PM »
just picked an HH The King of The North and let me tell you she shoots as sweet as she looks!!!!!!
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Re: HH BUG GOT ME - Part Two!
« Reply #5799 on: April 03, 2022, 06:00:27 AM »
Great looking bow!!! What’s the story behind that model or name?
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