HH BUG GOT ME - Part Two!

[Mudd]

It pays to occasionally throw your fist up there with your thumb stuck up like your hitch hiking...lol

If I get a couple of what I think should have been better hits it's the 1st thing I check.

I always feel better when it needs a twist or two also because then I don't have to take the blame...lol "It's that blasted string that stretched out a bit!"

God bless,Mudd

[Brianlocal3]

My fistmele is 6 1/8"

[JDBerry]

What Muddy says, don't take the blame if you dont have to....James

[Brianlocal3]

I sure like Mudds thinking also

[Caboo]

Years ago I purchased a couple new longbows from Tim Meigs. His enclosed brace height instructions always said to measure the brace height to the back side of arrow shelf. If I remember correctly it was 8" to 9.5" The more I thought about it the more sense it made to me. Measuring to the belly side will vary between us depending on grip size but draw length to the back side of the bow is always consistent. It was good enough for Mr. Meigs so I that's the way I do it and it's amazing how well it works.

On the other side of this, a number of years back I had a bow that kind of blasted my bowhand and it did not like the arrows that I had for it. I made a short string for it, by accident, and put it on the bow anyway. Low be hold, it was nicer to shoot and the arrows flew better.  The animals that I shot could not tell that it shot a slower arrow. I thought that it was the fine tight braiding that I did and the eighteen strands, looking back, the higher brace might have had more to do with it.

[JDBerry]

Pavan know what you mean, same in crafting bows. Live long enough and you start learning....jAmES

[cahaba]

Nate Steen was saying how he ran his BH at 5 1/2" and said the bow shot well. I tried it on my Hill bows and got them set at 5 3/4" and I get great arrow flight and the bow is quiet. I like the lowest BH I can get away with. Mr. Hill said your BH should be low enough till the string started tapping your arm guard. I don't know about all of that but I do like mine as low as I can get it....David

[Jim Picarelli]

I also like mine set as low as I can get away with while still getting good arrow flight and quietness. My bows are anywhere from 5 7/8" to 6 1/4" and I'm usually getting a slight string slap on the wrist where it meets my hand

[cahaba]

I have my Shelton set at 6" and all is good. I don't get any string slap. I may twist it on down till I get a little string slap just to see how it would work for my arrow setup.  I do like to get every bit of performance I can out of my bows.

[Ric O'Shay]

With all the different BH's posted, I said it before and I'll say it again:

"You, the archer has to give the bow what the bow requires. You can't force it to do (perform) the way you want it to."

A "recommended" brace height from a bowyer is just that: "RECOMMENDED"

   

[ron w]

I have always liked a brace a bit higher than some. It's just what I like, 7-7 3/4 seems to work for me and the bows that I have.

[Mudd]

I believe Danny is on the right track.

Every bow is different...and by every bow, I mean every bow, even if they appear to be identical in every way.

Don't be afraid to play with your brace height.

There is a "sweet spot" that is unique to your bow.

"Recommended" brace heights should get you in the "ball park" but now it's up to you to find your seat.

It ain't rocket science or brain surgery and it's fun......Have fun with it!!

Merry Christmas and God bless,Mudd

[cahaba]

True. Every bow is different and every shooter is different. Stated BH is just a place to start.

[RC]

I find my sweet spot on bh by starting high and untwisting as I go down. I don`t look at arrow flight I just "feel" the bow. I do this without silencers on a fast flite string. when you get to the spot then add very lite wt silencers you will have it good. Least for me thats how I do it. Every time for me it will not only feel best but be  quiet as well.

[Kelly]

Until you guys started talking about actual BH measurements I had never put a tape to mine until just now. My Schulz all bamboo, my Sunset Hills are all at 5 5/8". Then measured my Miller and it was 5 3/4". Thought it looked hig before I measured it so now lowered it 1/8" so they are all the same.

Hill and Schulz both said to lower the BH till the string ticked your wrist-mind you they were both using B-50.

Lower BH creates more of a powerstroke, higher BH shortens the powerstroke. Personally I find the lower brace height shoots and feels so much better in my hands and just looks correct.

Sure the low BH makes for difficulty if using 5 1/2" fletch but I've stopped using those big feathers awhile ago. Been using 5" and now mostly 4" and getting very good flight. Of course I have lots of weight forward with 190 grain points on my wood shafts-think that helps-learned that from shooting high FOC carbons that had 260 grains up front. The more FOC the better they fly, IMO.

[canopyboy]

My experience is that lower BH means more power stroke, less energy left in the bow.  The bow shoots faster, smoother, and quieter the lower I go.  But at about 5-7/8 or so, I start smacking my armguard at the wrist.  In hunting temperature clothing, it starts smacking farther out.  The bow is quiet until the string smacks the armguard.  A fistmele for me is right about 6-1/8.  So I find that right about 6" works perfect for me.  Maybe if I found a way to grip the bow a little more from the side I could go lower, but why mess with what seems to work?

Measuring from the back instead of the belly side of the handle makes sense from a bow performance/consistency in measurement among various hand grips.  But since my limit seems to be driven by the distance from my wrist to the string, the traditional way of meauring seems to be the way to go.

[far rider]

Guys (gals) your killing me. Love the thread, but your killing me. Mudd, you in particular! It's like your the evil emperor using your dark Jedi mind tricks on my weak sub conscience. I go to sleep hearing "Luke......you need a bow" over and over again!!!! James....your a Sith as well I believe now.

Details to follow.
   

[Ric O'Shay]

quote:Originally posted by far rider:
Guys (gals) your killing me. Love the thread, but your killing me. Mudd, you in particular! It's like your the evil emperor using your dark Jedi mind tricks on my weak sub conscience. I go to sleep hearing "Luke......you need a bow" over and over again!!!! James....your a Sith as well I believe now.

Details to follow.
           

[MikeNova]

Yes its a know fact that we must take a different bow on every hunt.