Graybarkhunter: I don't have a trail camera photo of him but I do (think) I have video footage of him. In fact, I passed him up twice in 2006, once on film at 18 yds. because I was actively after the B&C buck nicknamed Rocky and I only had one buck tag then. I'm just speculating but the buck I think he used to be I mentioned on page 74 of my book "Once Upon A Tine" in the chapter titled "Rocky XI". Basically, (so you all don't have to buy the book. ha) he was pretty non-typical. He had a basic 4x4 main frame but his bases were "as big around as a can of corn" as the old farmers say. He also had exceptional brow tines as well as a cluster of significant non-typical points near the massive bases. In 2006 I figured he was 5 1/2 yrs. old which (if I'm correct) would make him 12 1/2 this fall. BW