Yeah, the durability theme will always come up. I don't do any 3D shoots, the ones around here are pretty compound-centric and if I drive a couple hours to a trad shoot I don't think my shooting skills would be on par with the gas expense, haha. Soon as deer season is over I will turn to hogs (deer season on post has been rough for me this year, haven't seen many and the number of hunters on post has the games nerves about frazzled.) I am looking forward to going back to pugs though. I had a good deal of success last year. Seems winter is the best time to go after them. Its drier, less foliage, and the swamps dont fight back as hard it seems. Hah! That being said, I know the odds of getting a cedar, or any wood arrow for that matter, back after sinking it into a hog is pretty slim. But that doesn't bother me, it will have done it duty. On a related note, 2nd day of deer season a had a pair of 'yotes trotting past my stand about 20 meters away. I lined up on the second one in line and fired. Due to it trotting I hit further back than I wanted. Its back end dropped to the ground and all heck broke loose. It began snarling and turning in circles. Then it reached back and bit my carbon arrow into 3 pieces. This happened in the time it took me to nock another arrow, (I cant even stand to see a coyote suffer if I can help it). I let him finish his butt-dragging turn presenting me with his pump house and loosed what I was sure was the fatal shot. It was a good hit, right in the 10 ring, though he managed with his last breaths to turn back and bite that arrow in half as well. In the end, which immediately followed, I had one dead good sized yote, and 2 broken carbons arrows. Figure if I can break carbon like that, I wont cry if some woodies go out bloody. Oh, I was so impressed with that coyote's will that I kept his tail. Salted it and now it hangs on my oldest boys bedroom door (he insisted on posing for a picture with the rascal). Guess I took the long road to get to that point huh? Sorry.