Arrow dilemma

[Iowabowhunter]

Got the string on my Kanati shot in well, now trying to put together some arrows.

I tried some AD Trads with regular inserts and 300 grain tips and they fly like darts....but are super heavy, thus making them not real fast. Plus they are a bit thick. 137 fps makes about 32# of ke.

58" 58#@28" and I draw 28".  Can I get some advice for the Easton FMJ's?  Hoping that being lighter, and also a lot thinner should help penetration while still being heavy enough to pack a punch.

[Iowabowhunter]

The AD Trads come in about 765 grains by the way

[Manitoba Stickflinger]

FMJ 400 with regular inserts and a 200-250 gr. point should work well! You'll end up 550-600 grains.

I have almost the same set-up as you and shoot FMJ's. That said, I have been experimenting with a test kit of AD's. Not quite sold on them yet!

[Sam McMichael]

If the heavy arrows shoot like darts, they may be a great choice. Penetration and accuracy should be quite good. While compound shooters dwell on velocity, many of the more accomplished trad shooters will opt for slower but exceedingly deadly arrows. None of my bows should over about 160 fps, but they perform well.

[Iowabowhunter]

I have some of Big Jims 300 grain VPA's ordered so I'm gonna have to put together some shafts to work for them. I am going to get a test kit and play around see if I can get some of them to work.

With that much up front, I'm thinking the 340's with 50-75 gr insert and the 300 grain head should do the trick. Would come in right at 677 grains, plenty above the 10gpp and 650 grain penetration threshold.

The AD Trads fly really well, hoping I can get the FMJ's to do the same.

[Sam McMichael]

Whoa! After reading my last post, it sounds as if I am passing myself off as one of those "more accomplished trad shooters". Not so, but I do agree with that thought process and copy the approach of those guys. I shoot only wood, so I don't really do a lot of technical stuff to reach a certain specification. All I need is a set of arrows that shoot consistently and I am all set.

[Iowabowhunter]

No worries Sam I knew what you meant  

[SAVIOUR68]

Look at the Black Eagle Rampage shafts,same ID/OD as easton axis shafts but lighter. You should get a finished arrow shaft to weight around 600-625grs with the half out insert and 300grs up frt.

[katman]

Iowabowhunter, you might look at the arrow dynamics ptp shaft, skinny and lighter.
 http://www.nitrostinger.com/store/store_product_detail.cfm?Product_ID=14

[BigJim]

A 58 lb kanati would do well with a cx 250 and a regular insert with the 300 up front. Probably will have to cut them to about 29" +- will give you about 618g and kill anything in N America.

I think you will have a hard time getting the 340 to shoot for you.

bigjim

[JDunlap]

The FMJ's should work real well for you. I shot them out of my bows 400's w/ about 225gns on the tip. Real nice - and expensive - arrows.

[sveltri]

Any chance we can see some pics of your new kanati?

[azhunter]

Why not stay with the AD Trads and use less point weight. With that pound bow and the AD Trads you should be able to get them to shoot like darts with a lot less point weight than 300 grains. Look at some of the posts and comments from Terry. I shoot less weight so I use the trad lights. Very forgiving shaft with various point weights.

[Iowabowhunter]

The broadheads I'm going to use are Big Jim's Big 3 300 grain 1 1/2" diameter 3 blade heads, and I'm going to shoot the Grizzly 185 single bevel heads mounted on adapters for moose/elk etc.

The AD Trads do fly really well, they are just real heavy and pretty slow, with a huge outside diameter.

As far as pictures of the Kanati, I will try and get some up later today, I'm going to have to ask someone to post them for me. All I have is pictures from my cell phone as my computer bit the dust!

[Iowabowhunter]

Does anybody know if a sponsor has the Easton Axis Trade in a test kit?

[Iowabowhunter]

Trads*

[SAVIOUR68]

3rivers has test kits

[Iowabowhunter]

I would assume that the traditional shafts have the same specs as the regular axis shafts?

[SAVIOUR68]

Trad axis are heavier that the black shafts