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Author Topic: How much would it take 2 give up your trad bow??  (Read 1987 times)

Offline Kris

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Re: How much would it take 2 give up your trad bow??
« Reply #60 on: December 27, 2013, 01:12:00 AM »
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None-- that's not what traditional equipment is about.

Dido.  There are other attributes to consider which I place above arrow speed.

I don't need an excuse to buy a bow though.

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Offline overbo

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Re: How much would it take 2 give up your trad bow??
« Reply #61 on: December 27, 2013, 10:26:00 AM »
Sorry I mentioned fps(speed) w/ this thread. As stated in another thread, it's like waving a red flag at a angry bull. Lighten up gents it's just a hypothetical question. No one will think you aren't worthy of being a traditional elites if you like a faster bow.

Offline cloudbaseracer

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Re: How much would it take 2 give up your trad bow??
« Reply #62 on: December 27, 2013, 10:32:00 AM »
Yeah, the crazy thing is that I bet 80% or more of the bows for which the guys posted speed is not important are from bowyers that list -- fast bow, quick, flat shooting, great cast and many other speed related things as attributes.

It is important to almost all bowyers, and it is a major factor in performance given how almost all bows now are pretty to look at.

I like fast, quiet smooth bows.  There are NO NEGATIVES to a fast bow if it is quiet and smooth to shoot.  

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Offline Swamp Yankee

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Re: How much would it take 2 give up your trad bow??
« Reply #63 on: December 27, 2013, 11:30:00 AM »
It's funny that many who say speed doesn't matter will also preach to shoot the heaviest bow you can handle.  The only reason to shoot a heavier weight bow is, duh, to increase speed.  I agree; lighten up; it's a conversation about a hobby, not a cure for (insert you favorite disease here).
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Re: How much would it take 2 give up your trad bow??
« Reply #64 on: December 27, 2013, 05:06:00 PM »
I shoot heavier bows... and NOT to increase speed. When I shoot heavier bows, I also shoot heavier arrows so that speed/trajectory remains unchanged.... but better penetration is afforded.

I didn't mean that speed has no bearing whatsoever, just that it has no more than other qualities that are at LEAST as important, to ME.

If it was more important to me than the fact that I make and hunt with my own bows of all natural material, it would likely lead me to hunt with fiberglass or carbon entombed bows of numerous, precisely ground lams, allowing a more 'speedy design'.... might convince me to use arrows lighter and/or more fragile than the heavy, durable, barrel tapered hickories I prefer... might cause me to use different string material..... if it completely outweighed my affinity for my bow's aestetics, I might use some unappealing,  flat glass or carbon instead of naturally beautiful, warm, enviting curvy wood. In all, it might cause me to settle. But alas... again, it's not that important. 5 fps isn't... and neither is 50. Just my opinion. Disagree freely  :)

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Re: How much would it take 2 give up your trad bow??
« Reply #65 on: December 27, 2013, 05:39:00 PM »
Very satisfied with the bows I have. I used to think there's that magic bow out there, have since learned-that ain't so.
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Re: How much would it take 2 give up your trad bow??
« Reply #66 on: December 27, 2013, 07:42:00 PM »
First off, I've yet to shoot any recurve that's faster than my 1968 Howatt Monterey. Put a high strength string on some of those old recurves and they shoot right there with anything new. If I could only have one bow it would be the Monterey regardless of what new fancy design would come into vogue. The Monterey has stood the test of time (as well as many whitetails).
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Re: How much would it take 2 give up your trad bow??
« Reply #67 on: December 27, 2013, 09:52:00 PM »
if I were to put a number on it, 10fps faster would get me interested. I like speed. but I cant shoot a lot of draw weight, so I sold, scraped and saved and bought a A&H acs. and I love it. I bought myself a chronograph for Christmas, honestly to try some tuning ideas, but I can already tell you the A&H is faster than my other bows. even at 2 pounds more draw weight its 10 fps faster than another well respected top of the line custom bow I have. will I get rid of the other bow. HECK NO. look at my call name.
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Re: How much would it take 2 give up your trad bow??
« Reply #68 on: December 28, 2013, 12:20:00 AM »
If they called me and said they thought it was a better bow all around, then I would probably head to Nixa to try it out. If they called me and told me that it was just a little faster as in 5 fps or so but not any smoother or quieter then I wouldn't bother. It's going to be pretty hard for the guys at Black Widow to build a better longbow for me then what they are building right now. Their Pl just fits me.
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Re: How much would it take 2 give up your trad bow??
« Reply #69 on: December 28, 2013, 12:38:00 AM »
Another thread about bow speed? At less than a 27" draw with a longbow, speed is rather important to me. However, I have and have owned the bows that were the fastest. My Grooves Spitfire is fast. My Jack howard was fast. My Black Widow 66" was fast.  With a Hill style longbow at 25 yards, I am fast, and I am accurate.  As Jerry Hill told me enough cast is enough. If a bow takes me three seconds to be accurate and the deer gives me a second and a half to make an accurate shot, that bow is too slow, no matter how fast the arrow is flying. I like hunting pheasants and small game, I have never ever seen a live pheasant act like a foam pheasant. Are my Hill style longbows fast?  It does not matter if someone with a 30" draw has more speed than me, I cannot hit the broadside of a barndrawing that far. So fast only matters at my draw, being fluid, accurate, and quick on the draw makes up the difference for me. Are my Hill style bows faster than average for me at my draw? I like the quicker ones for sure, but I absolutely love the bows that I can go into over drive getting an arrow off and still be dead on. Show me a 250 fps bow that I can shoot Hill style,  that is not sensitive or unstable, that I can still be accurate and quick on the shot at my draw and I will be very interested.

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Re: How much would it take 2 give up your trad bow??
« Reply #70 on: December 28, 2013, 01:49:00 PM »
10 fps to answer the question, all else being equal.

I tune all my bows to shoot about the same speed (the speed my mind likes) and try for high foc in the setup, so I could pick any one up and the trajectory is in my brain.

With a more efficient bow I can up arrow weight to obtain my preferred speed and gain penetration, arrow stability and a quieter shot.
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Offline Paul/KS

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Re: How much would it take 2 give up your trad bow??
« Reply #71 on: December 28, 2013, 01:53:00 PM »
The faster it shoots just means I'll miss quicker...
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Re: How much would it take 2 give up your trad bow??
« Reply #72 on: December 28, 2013, 02:27:00 PM »
I don't care how fast my bow is I care if I can it what I am aiming at.
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Offline jonsimoneau

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Re: How much would it take 2 give up your trad bow??
« Reply #73 on: December 28, 2013, 04:04:00 PM »
What did Chris come up with now Stephen?

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Re: How much would it take 2 give up your trad bow??
« Reply #74 on: December 28, 2013, 05:52:00 PM »
I fell for that before with a bowyer 15yrs ago  and won't fall for it again cause it cost me 750.00 and I wasn't even impressed..

thing is he called me out of the blue and it was money I was saving for another bow at the time a Matlock Preditor and well I never got my Matlock and traded away the super bow about a month after getting it.

I have to hear many opinions and possibly try out any bow now before buying them.
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