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daniel boon
Trad Bowhunter
Posts: 391
Speed doesn't matter?
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December 25, 2013, 04:16:00 PM »
After reading the responses on the "How much would it take to give up your trad bow" post, most say that they don't care about the speed.
HYPOTHETICALLY, take 2 bows, Your favourite one, and the new one. Both exactly the same, looks, weight, string etc, shooting the same arrow, everything the same, except the new one is 10-15fps faster.
Which one would you go home with. (silly?)
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T Lail
Trad Bowhunter
Posts: 818
Re: Speed doesn't matter?
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December 25, 2013, 04:19:00 PM »
the slower one....I like to march to a differant beat......
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tomsm44
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Re: Speed doesn't matter?
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December 25, 2013, 04:34:00 PM »
Speed is probably a factor for most trad hunters, it's just way down the list of factors that impact their preferences. In your hypothetical, if the new bow was EXACTLY the same, except for speed, I'd have a new favorite bow. If there was even a slight advantage to the old bow in regards to feel, noise, accuracy, smoothness of draw, etc., I'd stick with old reliable. I'd say your hypothetical is pretty far fetched though. 10-15 fps is a big improvement for two identical bows. I could see maybe finding 3-5 fps difference even between two "identical" mass produced bows, but not 10-15. But I guess that's why it's "hypothetical". :D I like the question though. I'm interested to see all the responses.
Matt
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Tradcat
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Re: Speed doesn't matter?
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December 25, 2013, 04:47:00 PM »
I do see your point ... BUT all things being equal (in your example)... PROBABLY would mean the arrows that you were currently shooting would PROBABLY be to weak in spine. Speaking strictly from my viewpoint, I wouldn't want to start trying to find the perfect arrow set up again. If, for example, I went from a mild R/D bow to a radical R/D design...then I'd be ok with the idea.....just my take
Tradcat
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daniel boon
Trad Bowhunter
Posts: 391
Re: Speed doesn't matter?
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December 25, 2013, 04:48:00 PM »
Matt, (far fetched- yes) that's why hypothetically. Everything the SAME except the speed.
Cheers Dan
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sswv
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Posts: 839
Re: Speed doesn't matter?
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December 25, 2013, 04:50:00 PM »
"fast is fine but accuracy is final"
Wyatt Earp
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daniel boon
Trad Bowhunter
Posts: 391
Re: Speed doesn't matter?
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December 25, 2013, 04:51:00 PM »
Tradcat, same spine arrows, no retuning needed.
Dan
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daniel boon
Trad Bowhunter
Posts: 391
Re: Speed doesn't matter?
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December 25, 2013, 04:57:00 PM »
Accuracy the same, string, spine, quiet, dead in hand, ETC. EVERYTHING THE SAME.
Cheers Dan
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Bear Heart
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Re: Speed doesn't matter?
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December 25, 2013, 04:58:00 PM »
how do we always get back to this?
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Re: Speed doesn't matter?
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December 25, 2013, 05:09:00 PM »
I have a rather short draw, speed at my draw is important. Some bows are total duds at 26". Some recurves are more touchy at a short draw than at a longer draw. Some longbows are not as fast as my pig-nut hickory at my draw. But no matter what bow it is, if a bow a touchy to inflections put into the shot by my release fingers, it will never go hunting.
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CRS
Trad Bowhunter
Posts: 514
Re: Speed doesn't matter?
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December 25, 2013, 05:09:00 PM »
If you asking me if I would drop the money on a new bow and give up my old standby because it is 10-15fps faster, no.
If I was in an archery shop comparing the two, I would pick the faster one.
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gringol
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Re: Speed doesn't matter?
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December 25, 2013, 05:22:00 PM »
The speed topic causes bunched panties everytime it comes up. I personally agree with you, but this thread is going to go everywhere except where you meant it to go.
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Mudd
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Re: Speed doesn't matter?
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December 25, 2013, 05:24:00 PM »
"Silence is deadly!"
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damascusdave
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Re: Speed doesn't matter?
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December 25, 2013, 05:25:00 PM »
I have yet to shoot a single real arrow out of a hypothetical bow...I have more than one bow that is fast and quiet and I am content
DDave
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sbschindler
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Re: Speed doesn't matter?
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December 25, 2013, 05:25:00 PM »
speed is not the most important factor but it of course is important, and it depends on the quarry how important, the bigger the animal the more important, "up to a point" speed plus a certain amount of weight gives better penetration and that in conjunction with a well placed arrow gives us what were all after a quick clean kill, there is no set speed that is best and there is no set arrow weight that is best, mix the 2 together with your bows weight and we have what were looking for.
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gonefishing600
Trad Bowhunter
Posts: 366
Re: Speed doesn't matter?
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December 25, 2013, 05:31:00 PM »
It would depend on how accurate I could shoot the new bow. A faster bow can sometimes be less forgiving in form and release errors. I would not sacrifice accuracy for a little bit more speed.
When I first got my ACS, I had to slow it down with a stiff shaft and heavy tips until I got used to the bow. I was shooting GT trads 7595 with 300 grains up front, with a 46# bow. I have since lengthen the 7595 shaft and now shoot 200 grains up front, and it's quite fast.
So now let me ask you a silly question!
Why do you ask?
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larry
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Re: Speed doesn't matter?
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December 25, 2013, 05:36:00 PM »
that's easy....the faster one, unless it was ugly
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elkhunter45
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Re: Speed doesn't matter?
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December 25, 2013, 05:43:00 PM »
While I would not choose set-up on speed alone. I would choose the faster one in the all is the same hypothetical you presented. More energy and flatter trajectory would be a positive in my view.
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buckeye_hunter
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Re: Speed doesn't matter?
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Reply #18 on:
December 25, 2013, 06:04:00 PM »
I would stay with the bow I have unless the new one is free and comes with free arrows I can tune
as well.
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gonefishing600
Trad Bowhunter
Posts: 366
Re: Speed doesn't matter?
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December 25, 2013, 06:05:00 PM »
Quote
Originally posted by larry:
that's easy....the faster one, unless it was ugly
I would rather shoot and ugly bow that has superior performance, than have the most beautiful bow in the world and have poor performance. And there is such a bow, that is the most beautiful bow I ever seen, but a poor performer. I won’t call no names, but been there done that!
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