I have done a search and didnt come up with a whole lot. I know I could call Angelo and talk to him, but honestly getting a pack isn't in the budget right now. I have looked at tons and tons of packs and I keep coming back to lemhi. Those that have bison gear packs, which material do you prefer and why? I want a quiet, durable pack, that will hold everything I need it to. I was really hoping to find one of these used, but they don't seem to ever pop up. Anyone know roughly what the weight and size of these packs is? I know a lot of people on here like the first trip explorer, and the lost river, but these just dont appeal to me, and aren't big enough for what I want. Any info, or anyone looking to get rid of one, would be extremely helpful.