Kifaru, tenzing or..?

[razorsharptokill]

I have a Eberlestock Blue Widow and it is great until I get 50+lbs in it then it sags a little. Looking to upgrade. I really like the looks of  the Kifaru Nomad and EMRII. Leery of paying that much for a pack without being able to load test it myself prior though.

Any other suggestions? I'm looking for a pack with heavy hauling comfort that can double as a day pack.

I was also looking at a Tenzing 5000 ut they are made over seas.

[Steve O]

Jim,

Kifaru will let you have 30 days to try it out. As long as you keep it clean, you can send it back. I doubt many come back.

[hockey7]

Take a good look at Mystery Ranch also.

[Jorge]

I know that Kuiu is going with a new, lighter and improved version of their packs, another option.

[mjh]

Kifaru and Mystery Ranch are at the top of my lists.   Have a G1 Zulu and Molle Express with a few extras, looking at a Timberlane 2 for 2014, well see if the budget can handle it???

[wingnut]

Jim,

Jason and I both got Kifaru packs this year and absolutely loved them when packing moose meat.  They are in Denver and would be a good day trip for you to go check it out.

Mike

[Onions]

I had the Eberlestock Blue Widow, it was a good pack. Switched to a Kifaru Timberline last year. For me, a WORLD of difference! Really no comparison, better fit, better built, simpler design, slimmer fit.

chris <><

[Biathlonman]

Run the various classifieds and suction sites and you should be able to turn up an emr or longhunter.  I run a G2 longhunter with composite stays and couldn't be happier.  The Kuiu frame can't take the same weight as the Kifaru.  I haven't met anyone yet who bought a mystery ranch and didn't later wish they had gone Kifaru.

[razorsharptokill]

Great info guys thank you! Denver is about 12 hours from me I believe. If I could get a cheap SouthWest flight it might be worth it.

I like the looks of the Nomad but with frame and some pockets it was like $700. Tough pill to swallow. I would like to get just one pack that will do everything well and be done though.

[Bivyhunter]

I just got back from the ATA Show where I got to check out a new pack company, EXO. They have a pack that is 3,500. Titanium frame, really comfortable. I know the guy who designed it,he spent a lot of time with Ebrlestock. Should be one to keep an eye out on. Built in Boise.

[D.T.]

Mystery Ranch. The Nice frame is hard to beat.

[Jorge]

Stone Glacier is another option for backpacks

[razorsharptokill]

Which packs did you get Wingnut?

[pamike]

Mystery Ranch!!  Check out archery talk classifieds - couple for sale right now.

Anytime there is a heavy load called for, I want a pack with a tup strap. The tump strap puts the load on the hole skeleton, instead of just the shoulders. Just like the voygiers of old, I was told of a Canadian moose guide can transport his body weight in moose meat with a very simple canvas and tup strap setup, that is stored rolled up until needed.

[John Havard]

Jim,

I'd first recommend the Kifaru followed closely by Mystery Ranch.  Like so many things fit is personal.  There are things I like a lot about both systems but personally I give the nod to the Kifaru packs.

Having been hauling heavy loads in Alaska since the mid-70's with everything from external aluminum frame packs to internal frame packs my opinion is based on having been there and done that.  BY FAR the best system I've found is either the Kifaru or Mystery Ranch.  For what it's worth I am currently using my 5th or 6th Kifaru pack (their Longhunter guide model which isn't being made any more) and also own and sometimes use a MR NICE 6500 and a MR Metcalf.  

For most hunting situations I think a simple big bag with good compression straps is the way to go.  You can always make a big bag smaller by compressing it down but you can't make a small bag bigger.  The weight differential between a small bag on a removable frame versus a big bag on a removable frame is negligible.  

There are two things upon which you should not compromise: one is the presence of a mid-level support platform/sleeping bag compartment.  You don't want a heavy load resting in the bottom of a bag.  The bottom of a heavy load is best carried with it bottomed out around your waist.  The second is an excellent load lifting system to keep the weight off of your shoulders and on your hips where it belongs.

Hauling September 2013:
   

The benefits of having a removable frame:
   

[widow sax]

Kuiu,Stone Glacier,Tenzing and Kifiru are in a different world then the Blue Widow check them all out I bet you like one of them. I have a Kuiu and love it.   Widow

[razorsharptokill]

I am looking for a Kifaru frame if anyone is looking to part with one. Duplex would fit my needs the best I believe.

[The Night Stalker]

I am in the same boat, read and researched.  I was going to buy a kifaru 5200 UL two years ago but now I am leaning towards a EMR 2. Looks like great options.

[Ryan Sanpei]

Jim,
I just ordered a Kifaru Nomad yesterday.  Like you, I wanted a pack that could virtually accommodate all my hunts.  I think this pack will do the trick for me.  Besides all the other Kifaru amenities, it's versatility is what sold me.

Aloha!
Ryan