1916 = what carbon arrow?

[wisconsinteacher]

I have been messing with my 3555 arrows with 100 gr inserts and 125 grain head and every time I think I have them tuned, I double check and they show they are too stiff.  I have some 1916s for my long bow that are showing weak spine out of the recurve.  I would like to order some new carbons for the recurve, so are 1535s the way to go, or would you buy some more 1916 alum and play with them to get them stiffer?  I would like to shoot 100 or 125 gr heads.  I am shooting a Bear Grizzly #45 @ 28".  I am guessing my draw is closer to 27/27.5"

[Mojostick]

GrizzlyStik Sitka and AD Trad X-Lites should work well.

[Bud B.]

If you go 1535 you'd have to leave the full length for a 125gr head I believe.

If you cut you might get by with a 50gr insert at 29" bop and 125 head.

Is your Grizzly a newer one and are you using FF or B50/B55? That could make a bit of difference.

[wisconsinteacher]

It is an older Grizzly with a B55 string.

[Bud B.]

Then the above is what I would try. If FF then the 1535s might be a little weak.

Big Jim has blems in stock now on GT Trads. If they don't work they will sell easily in the classifieds.

[wisconsinteacher]

Would a 1535 at full length with a 125 head work for deer hunting or is that getting a little too light?

[bentpole]

First question how are they showing too stiff? On Paper? It's easy to go to a heavier head/field point  and easy to find matching broadheads. 100 gr inserts is a great start. I'm thinking with a 27 1/2" draw a 28 1/2 in arrow. The  next question is what length did you cut them to? Carbons stiffen up quick the more you cut off.  All my bows over the years longbows and recurves were around 50#'s @ my 27" draw. I cut my Gold Tips Trads to 28"'s. Longbows I practiced with a standard insert and a 250 gn. head. I shot 225 Muzzy Phantoms for hunting. My Widow recurve I dropped down to a 150 gn head on my carbons. That bow likes a stiffer arrow. The Widow is really liking Beamon center shot 500's 8.3 gpi cut to 28"'s. Brass insert and 145 gr field point. That bow by the way is around 47#'s @ 27"'s. For hunting I switch to a Magnus Stinger @ 150 gr. Had a pass threw on a 6 pt this November.I think the 15/35 would be too light and weak?

[bentpole]

In all honesty you probably would find the arrows are weaker out of your recurve. Like I said above I dropped weight on my Widow.

[Bud B.]

Originally posted by wisconsinteacher:
Would a 1535 at full length with a 125 head work for deer hunting or is that getting a little too light?

No. Not too light. It will work as long as flight is good (as it should be for any arrow heading towards an animal) and your broadhead is sharp (same disclaimer). You should be around 9gpp with that arrow.

[wisconsinteacher]

My arrows are showing stiff when shot into a bag target.  Both with the bow vertical and with a cant.  (normal shooting style)  Right now my 3555 are full length with the inserts and heads.

[Cecil]

The 35/55 GT trad. might work out with 150-175grn points. some say the new ones are 32" long now. leave it full length. I only trim 1/4" at a time.

[Gator1]

IMHO bag targets aren't as telling as the arrow can enter and shift ..

Try a cardboard box opened up and tape paper I've used wrapping paper

Have it a shoulder height about 8 feet away and see what you get ...

If you determine your overall arrow weight you want you may have to work backwards... I'd think a 1535 would work and has been said get the bless can't go wrong plus big Jim might have some good advice he knows a thing or 2    

[Bud B.]

****edited to correct my bow's marked weight. It's 43@28. One of my Super Grizzlys is 45@28. Will shoot it tomorrow to see how it does with the same 1535s.*********


I have a 60s Grizzly 43@28. I draw right at 27 or a smidge more. I just shot full length GT Trad 1535s (Big Jim blems) with Bohning Signature nocks, factory inserts, 125gr field points, 3 5" turkey shields RW feathers, B50 string, and split three release. I am lefty.

The arrows were darts in spite of a cross wind.

I also shot with 145gr points. Still darts. And all arrows hit hard. I'm absolutely certain a complete pass thru on whitetail would be easily achieved with this setup.

Arrow weight with 125 was 401gr. Roughly 9.5ish gpp.

   

[Bud B.]

Bow was quiet also.

[bentpole]

Bag Target N.G.! Too many variables. Only way is to paper tune if you feel it's that critical. Like Gator recommends. Bud B. has it nailed. The only thing is if you want a shorter arrow you have to add weight to front. That will weaken the arrow again.

[wisconsinteacher]

I will shoot through some paper soon and get the results posted up.