Originally posted by cpnhgnlngct: Huntryx,Yes. Night and Day. My classic made in 2002, while one of the most forgiving and smoothest bows I've ever owned,, can't hold a candle to my new Ultimate. I've killed a lot of animals with my classic. It is bombproof. Used to throw it out of my treestand when getting down from a hunt. The thing was my best friend. Until I got the Ultimate...Now my ultimate goes wherever I go. My old classic just was sent back to Bob Lee for refinishing. The finish was almost completely off the bow I abused it so much. The nestalgia flooded back when I opened that box and saw my old friend looking brand new. But honestly... I haven't even put my classic together since I got it back 4 months ago... Haven't even put it together...The ultimate is just that... The ultimate... http://tradgang.com/noncgi/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=124200#000000 I see a P3 in my future.Oh... and yes... $1600 is worth every penny. You don't know what you're missing until you try it.