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Author Topic: New Zwickey BH - the "No Mercy"  (Read 1017 times)

Offline SlowBowinMO

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Re: New Zwickey BH - the "No Mercy"
« Reply #20 on: September 16, 2007, 01:24:00 PM »
It doesn't say anything about single bevel on the 3Rivers write up.  Where is the single bevel info coming from?  I guess I missed it?
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Re: New Zwickey BH - the "No Mercy"
« Reply #21 on: September 16, 2007, 01:29:00 PM »
Still looks like it would favor a right hand helical fletch?  Maybe it could be produced with a choice of either right or left bevel? I hope?
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Offline Terry Green

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Re: New Zwickey BH - the "No Mercy"
« Reply #22 on: September 16, 2007, 02:08:00 PM »
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Originally posted by SlowBowinMO:
It doesn't say anything about single bevel on the 3Rivers write up.  Where is the single bevel info coming from?  I guess I missed it?
I guess by the pic in the link....I could be wrong though.

And yes.......I modified some like that once....and the didn't weigh 130 grains when I was done....so there's extra metal in these than if you 'cut one down' yourself, so these would be stronger.
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Re: New Zwickey BH - the "No Mercy"
« Reply #23 on: September 16, 2007, 02:08:00 PM »
"Where is the single bevel info coming from? I guess I missed it?"

Check Pg.1, Terry Green's comment. Hence my comment. But looks like everyone's waiting for confirmation from Mr. Sturgis.
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Re: New Zwickey BH - the "No Mercy"
« Reply #24 on: September 16, 2007, 02:09:00 PM »
Whoops, posted at the same time. Ignore my post.
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Re: New Zwickey BH - the "No Mercy"
« Reply #25 on: September 16, 2007, 03:32:00 PM »
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you been living under a rock stone knife?  
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Actually I went on to read about the single bevel and found out that it is the spiral wound channel that makes them better. See I'm not as dumb as i look   :bigsmyl:
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Re: New Zwickey BH - the "No Mercy"
« Reply #26 on: September 16, 2007, 04:16:00 PM »
Just read a post "somewhere else" that sez

"I don't think they are single bevel. The prototypes weren't, but I would put them up against anything for penetration because the tip is thin but very strong (no elf shoeing). "
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Re: New Zwickey BH - the "No Mercy"
« Reply #27 on: September 16, 2007, 05:16:00 PM »
Instead of shooting a single bevel to get the twist at impact (make a hole), why not just shoot a 3 blade?

I don't get it........
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Re: New Zwickey BH - the "No Mercy"
« Reply #28 on: September 16, 2007, 05:30:00 PM »
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Originally posted by Biggie Hoffman:
I don't get it........
That's because you're old school. Come on Biggie, join the 21st century and get with the program here.    :bigsmyl:
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Re: New Zwickey BH - the "No Mercy"
« Reply #29 on: September 16, 2007, 07:45:00 PM »
I have been told to stick with a two blade, because i shoot only 47#.
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Re: New Zwickey BH - the "No Mercy"
« Reply #30 on: September 16, 2007, 10:06:00 PM »
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Instead of shooting a single bevel to get the twist at impact (make a hole), why not just shoot a 3 blade?

I don't get it........
because a 3 blade will not penetrate nearly as good. now will a 3 blade penetrate enough mayby, but is still not the same. plus the little thing about cutting blood vessels at an angle instead of at 90 degree's, greater blood flow.

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Re: New Zwickey BH - the "No Mercy"
« Reply #31 on: September 16, 2007, 10:11:00 PM »
helmet on (check) in my foxhole (check) waiting on return fire (check) possibly atillery from biggie (yep)

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Re: New Zwickey BH - the "No Mercy"
« Reply #32 on: September 16, 2007, 10:25:00 PM »
After a double lung, will this head penetrate into the dirt farther than Delta or eclipse or Eskimo or Griz or Silver Flame............  :goldtooth:
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Offline James Wrenn

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Re: New Zwickey BH - the "No Mercy"
« Reply #33 on: September 16, 2007, 10:49:00 PM »
Biggie the 3 blade will just shoot holes in them.The single bevel twist them in half like a potato.  ;)    :goldtooth:
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Re: New Zwickey BH - the "No Mercy"
« Reply #34 on: September 16, 2007, 10:53:00 PM »
I understand how the modified delta would weigh less after modification, but I don't understand how they would be any weaker.  You wouldn't be taking any metal off the head in any area that would weaken the head.  I'd  be interested in knowing what the final weight of a modified delta would be.
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Re: New Zwickey BH - the "No Mercy"
« Reply #35 on: September 17, 2007, 02:10:00 AM »
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 plus the little thing about cutting blood vessels at an angle instead of at 90 degree's, greater blood flow. [/QB]
In the real world, it's impossible to have any control over the angle your broadhead cuts a vessel. Greater blood flow results from cutting in the right places.

Nice to see a new head from Zwickey.  Green is good!
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Re: New Zwickey BH - the "No Mercy"
« Reply #36 on: September 17, 2007, 06:46:00 AM »
bm22 how much energy does the twisting head use upon impact?
You don't really buy the bit about cutting blood vessels at an angle do ya???????

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This is too much for me. Just go sharpen a good steel broadhead and go kill something.
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Re: New Zwickey BH - the "No Mercy"
« Reply #37 on: September 17, 2007, 06:50:00 AM »
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This is too much for me. Just go sharpen a good steel broadhead and go kill something.
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I can't imagine that there's a broadhead out there that hasn't taken game at some point. I also can't imagine that there's a broadhead out there that hasn't performed upto expectation at some point.
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Re: New Zwickey BH - the "No Mercy"
« Reply #38 on: September 17, 2007, 07:37:00 AM »
Biggie: Razorcaps get my vote, too. How's life down south?
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Re: New Zwickey BH - the "No Mercy"
« Reply #39 on: September 17, 2007, 07:47:00 AM »
I don't think Dr. Ashby ever said a 2 blade was better than a 3 blade if they are both put in the right spot and don't hit any bone. I think his study showed that if bone is hit, a single bevel 2 blade has better penetration than a 3 blade.
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