Gold Tip Shooters

[huntwithastick]

Recently had shoulder surgery and am now shooting a lighter bow.  It's a 46lb @ 28" Kaibab r/d longbow that I draw to right around 27.5 or 28.  I have some arrows that shoot great out of my 55lb recurve - Easton GG 500s (2016?) that are 30" from nock groove to BOP with 60gr weight behind insert, 100gr adapter and 125gr field point for a total arrow weight of 647gr.  They fly OK out of my Kaibab, but seem to "lob" to the target!  I do have 6 Gold Tip 3555 shafts that I'm considering for this bow - can those of you w/Gold Tip experience give me some suggestions on point weight, etc. for an arrow about the same length (30") coming out of this 46lb bow?  Thanks for any help!

[Longbow917]

I shoot 3555 with 225 grain tips, 15 grain insert.  29 inch from von to bop.  #50 longbow with sbd skinny string.  Great arrow flight.  I would think a 145-175 tip weight with your arrow length should be right in the ballpark for you!

[widow sax]

2016 is a 531 spine and goldtip 35-55 is a 500 spine they are a little weaker. They are close you can tweek the gold tip by making it a little shorter or reducing the tip weight to get the correct spine or they may work just fine like they are.    Widow

[PICKNGRIN]

I cut mine at 29", use 50 grain brass inserts and 175 grain field points.  (I use Zwickey Eskimos with the long aluminum broadhead adapter, this is about 170 grains, so field point wgt and broadhead wgt are close.)   I have had good luck with arrow flight using bows in the 45 to 50 lb. range.

[Echo62]

I shoot 3555 out of a 64 Howatt Hunter (so no fast flight) 47# @ 28" and I draw 28. Mine are cut to 29.5 inches. They have the stock 11 grain inserts. I'm using 250 grain points per the arrowsmiths suggestion and I'm getting the best arrow flight I've ever had out of this bow. He told me that 300 grain points might fly even better. I was skeptical, but the arrow doesn't lie.  

[BUCKY]

I shoot 45#@26". My arrows are gold tip 35/55 cut at 27". I use a 100 grain brass insert with 200 grain heads. My arrows are 520 grains.

[96ssportsp]

I am shooting 45 @ 28 drawn to 32. Full length(32) 3555's with 100 grain Gold Tip threaded insert and 50 grains screwed in behind that, and 125 tips. Total arrow weight of 583 grains. They fly well. Hope this helps, Scott.

[Bladepeek]

I'm shooting GT3555 cut to 30.5" with standard inserts and 175 gr field tips, or 50 gr weights screwed into the inserts and 125 gr tips. My bow sounds very similar - 46# @ 28" RER with longbow limbs installed. The same arrows also shoot fine out of the same bow with 43# static tip recurve limbs installed.

[rodmaker]

I shoot Full length 3555's with 225 up front plus the insert. Works well in all my 45-50 pound bows.

[Cyclic-Rivers]

I shoot 29 3/4 inches with 250 total up front.

Get good flight from 46-53 lb bows.

[huntwithastick]

Thanks for all the responses.  I'm going to cut 'em to 30" start w/a 50gr weight behind the insert and go from there adding weight as necessary!  Love the prompt and great advice from all!  Thanks again.

Doug

[BigJim]

Great advice, and I thoroughly like the idea of heavy pt weight but if you want to lighten up just a bit, start off with a longer arrow.

lots of guys are making the 3555s work for mid 40 +lb bows by adding a bunch of weight up front. They could change that by switching to a 1535 and cutting there shafts (if possible) and putting a little more reasonable weight up front.

I believe in EFOC but there comes a point when enough is enough. The other advantage is....if you shoot gold tip blems, the 1535's are much easier to come by than the 3555's.
So many guys are making the 3555's work because there was nothing lighter up till a couple years ago. 1535's are simlply a .600 spine shaft.

thanks, bigjim

[Bldtrailer]

I would not cut TILL you bare shaft then cut only 1/4 at a time till you get close then play with arrow point weight & brace hight.

Recurves50-55@ 28 (I draw 27) I shoot 3555 29 in with 50grn insert and 175-200 grn tip.
WITH MY 45@28 I USE FULL LENGTH 1535 WITH 225 UP FROUNT.

[BUCKY]

Do 1535's come in black?

[solobowhunter]

Originally posted by BigJim:
Great advice, and I thoroughly like the idea of heavy pt weight but if you want to lighten up just a bit, start off with a longer arrow.

lots of guys are making the 3555s work for mid 40 +lb bows by adding a bunch of weight up front. They could change that by switching to a 1535 and cutting there shafts (if possible) and putting a little more reasonable weight up front.

I believe in EFOC but there comes a point when enough is enough. The other advantage is....if you shoot gold tip blems, the 1535's are much easier to come by than the 3555's.
So many guys are making the 3555's work because there was nothing lighter up till a couple years ago. 1535's are simlply a .600 spine shaft.

thanks, bigjim

Good advice right there!  I can't tell you how many times I've been told my 1535's are the wrong arrow for me (45#@26").  The funny thing is they sure seem to fly good when I do my part.

[Cherokee Scout]

The Entrada .600 is the 1535 in black.

[BigJim]

Scout, he's not shooting a ladies bow like you...you little wimp    

The 1535 will give you more weight than the entrada and with the 45 lb bow it can be helpful.

The 1535 people are gaining numbers as they try and find out how well they shoot.

Most people only have their own experience to work from or at best that of a small group. I see guy having great success with the 1535's every day.

thanks, bigjim

[BUCKY]

Jim as I said earlier I'm shooting 27" 35/55s with 300 up front. If I shot 15/35s what do you think I would need up front?

[Flying Dutchman]

Agreed with what Big Jim says. I use GT 1535's on my 48 lbs bows. I leave them uncut and use a standard GT insert and nock which are both around the 12 grains. I use a 100 grains front load. Bows are center cut. They give me a perfect flight. At a draw weight of 48 lbs I end up with 8,5 gpp, which is ok for me.  Cutting the shaft and using higher frontloads will increase your gpp's if that's what you want. Last time I trained on a 60 yards distance and I could easily hit a balloon with that set up.
As for tuning, you can play with building out your strikeplate, (when your bow is  cut pas center) try some different weight field points, or cut the length. GT also has weight adaptors which you can screw into the standard inserts even when they are glued in. But you need a special tool for that.
I like the GT traditionals 1535 that much, I have a stock of 72 pcs. Big Jim Blems, that is             They became pretty much my standard shafts for my 45 to 48 lbs bows. That Big Jim glues the inserts in for no extra costs, is a great service, and I never had a insert coming loose till now...

[Stone Knife]

I like a heavier arrow for deer hunting and I also shoot what I hunt with all year. I have found out of my 45-46 pound bows at my draw (27") that the GT3555 works best for my application. I cut mine 29 1/8" with a 50 gr brass insert and 145 gr point, on my cheap little scale these come out to be 525 grains and are perfect flight and I get superb penetration on deer with them.