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rolltidehunter
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Piebald or Albino, what do you think?
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March 31, 2014, 12:50:00 PM »
Tell me what you think. Piebald or Albino? I got a picture of this deer on my trail camera last week. He was seen during hunting season by my uncle. He came out on a green field right at dark and was pushing around another small button head. I finally got a up close picture of him. Im guessing he is a Piebald. The reasons why I think this is he is does not have a Pink nose and eyes. I've read where a Piebald can be Blondeish/whiteish, brown spotted with black nose... what are your thoughts?
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Re: Piebald or Albino, what do you think?
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March 31, 2014, 12:56:00 PM »
I agree with you. I believe they have to have pink nose/eyes to be considered a true Albino.
Either way very cool. Have you asked yourself what you would do if you get a shot at him?
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Re: Piebald or Albino, what do you think?
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March 31, 2014, 12:58:00 PM »
I agree it is not a true albino. I know what I would do if I shot it Tom!
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rolltidehunter
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March 31, 2014, 01:17:00 PM »
TJ I am going to shoot him if I can next fall. Too many hunters around us that will shoot him if they get a chance.
this is a really neat deer
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tradshooter
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March 31, 2014, 01:25:00 PM »
Going with Piebald for sure, great picture. I have never seen one in the wild, after 45 years in the field.
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Izzy
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March 31, 2014, 01:28:00 PM »
New York has a population of "Blue Nosed" deer with blue eyes and nose on the Seneca Army Depot. Look just like that one. Very cool.
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shag08
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March 31, 2014, 01:31:00 PM »
The wife says it is leucistic...which is a white piebald. Very cool. Might want to check local game laws about taking that one. I'm pretty sure that here in TN it's illegal to kill an albino. That deer would be legal here but, from state, ya never know.
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rolltidehunter
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March 31, 2014, 01:33:00 PM »
shag I will look do some internet surfing on Leucistic.. thanks
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March 31, 2014, 01:39:00 PM »
leucistic is what he is. similar to the white alligators. a true albino has no melanin, so you would see the pink eyes (actually the retina showing through a colorless iris).
leucistic animals have the primary coat/skin color replaced by white, but still have dark pigmentation in hooves (claws, etc.)
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Re: Piebald or Albino, what do you think?
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March 31, 2014, 01:42:00 PM »
wikipedia actually does a pretty good job of explaining it:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leucism
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Re: Piebald or Albino, what do you think?
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March 31, 2014, 01:47:00 PM »
It is a shame you can't give him several years to develop some horn growth before you try to take him.
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March 31, 2014, 02:01:00 PM »
Black hooves, piebald.
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March 31, 2014, 04:34:00 PM »
Nice, hope you get a chance at him in the fall.
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March 31, 2014, 04:48:00 PM »
Pretty cool deer. I'd really have my eye on that guy on the right hand side of the screen though!!
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rolltidehunter
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March 31, 2014, 05:13:00 PM »
dark timber I killed a turkey on that field sunday
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Keith Zimmerman
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March 31, 2014, 05:48:00 PM »
Is nothing protected? Even though it's legal. I wouldn't shoot him. I think he would deserve a pass from me.
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Hummer3T
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March 31, 2014, 06:33:00 PM »
not albino, I would go with leucistic, very cool and rare.
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Re: Piebald or Albino, what do you think?
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March 31, 2014, 06:58:00 PM »
Hey John...what kind of antler growth did he have before he shed them? Just judging by the body he looks like a year and a half old deer.
I kinda share the same sentiments as others...I'd really hate to take that one. I'm not a horn monger by any means. But unless that deer was a 20 " 10 point, I think I would have serious reservations about killing him. The cape makes him a once in a lifetime deer. And I know what you mean about neighboring hunters killing anything that walks.
I let a big Texas long-horned spike walk all year because he had spots down his back like a fallow deer. He was clearly 18 months old, and in his winter coat, but i gave him the pass at 10 yards (many times) because he was so different.
I guess for me it would all come down to "THAT MOMENT." I have missed before (easy shots...with rifles) because my heart wasn't in it.
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March 31, 2014, 07:22:00 PM »
It may be myth but everyone I know of who has shot an albino or piebald had bad hunting luck for years after.
Cool looking deer, I was gonna go with Pie Bald but that Leucistic seems to fit.
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Re: Piebald or Albino, what do you think?
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March 31, 2014, 07:35:00 PM »
Genetically speaking, being leucistic is likely not a great career enhancer, especially as a newborn and young deer.
Why should he get a break that others don't ?
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