Arrows with the heaviest gpi, but with 600 spine?

[alex321]

I have been looking everywhere for such an arrow, as I have a 25" draw and the weight is between 40-45 at 28".  I am shooting a eglish logbow so need a gpi of 8 gpi or greater.

The heaviest I have found is Easton apollo at
spine   gpi
670   7.7         
610   8.1
560   8.4

I am trying all three and would like to hear of other possible models worth trying.

I have also ordered Beman Hunter Junior, which also seem heavy, but there are conflicting reports on the actually spine... Its either 500 or 650 spine.

I am sick of my wooden arrows breakig so easy so wish to give carbon a go.  I know that this sounds stupid for someone shooting an english longbow, but patience has goe with wooden arrows

Thanks for your suggestions.
Alex

[nineworlds9]

Try to locate some Beman MFX classic 600s.  They've been discontinued but sometimes they can be found.  Can't remember what gpi but also look at Beman Centershot 600s.

[dragonheart]

Have you tried Surewood Douglas Fir?  Tough wood with heavier weight.

[nineworlds9]

You can also use weight tubes.  Yes Doug fir is good stuff.

[alex321]

Originally posted by dragonheart:
Have you tried Surewood Douglas Fir?  Tough wood with heavier weight.

No, I haven't.  I have tried cedar and spruce(I think).  Cedar were a bit tougher...

I would like to give carbon a go... If these break, then maybe I should improve my shooting..  
Cheers
Alex

[Paul_R]

You can always use weight tubes to add up to 8gpi to any carbon arrow without affecting spine. Get them from 3 Rivers.

[alex321]

Originally posted by nineworlds9:
Try to locate some Beman MFX classic 600s.  They've been discontinued but sometimes they can be found.  Can't remember what gpi but also look at Beman Centershot 600s.

I will look into those two.  Thanks for the advice.

The selection of carbo bows is so wide.  I tried GT Trads 1535, but even these were too stiff whilst bare shafting.  I don't understand that, but such is life...

Cheers
Alex
ALex

[alex321]

Originally posted by nineworlds9:
You can also use weight tubes.  Yes Doug fir is good stuff.

Weight tubes ???Never heard of them, but the again I have oly been shooting for a few months... I will google these.  I am pleased that they do not change the spine of the arrow.  this is very importnat for my low draw weight.

Cheers
Alex

[Prairie Drifter]

I'm a little confused, do you mean 8 grs per pound of bow weight(gpp)?

[Prairie Drifter]

Carbon express heritage 90's weigh 9.7gpi and spine .598

[pghrich]

hello, i have a similar situation, i only draw 24" and shoot a 45#@24" elb, i ended up using gt traditional 15/35 with 100g brass inserts and 125g points cut to 27 1/2", they fly very nice and weight about 470g,

[tradhunter]

The good thing about the Gold tip arrows is the brass weights that you can screw in to the back of the inserts. I use the 50 gr. ones and just keep adding till the arrow is spined right for the bow....that is if they start out to stiff, adds a ton of weight over all, and puts it where you want it, up front!

[Paul_R]

Originally posted by Prairie Drifter:
I'm a little confused, do you mean 8 grs per pound of bow weight(gpp)?

I mean 8 grains per inch (gpi). They come in 3, 5, and 8 gpi. Check out the video:

   weight tubes

[skunkhound]

X 2 for Carbon Express Heritage. They seem to have the heaviest gpi, which means you don't need all of your weight up front.

[JamesKerr]

CX Heritage 90 or 75 heaviest GPI in that low of a shaft spine I've come across. Though I don't find them to be much stronger to impacts (mushrooming the front end) than when I shot cedar arrows. A much tougher arrow to look at is the Arrow Dynamic Trad extra light. I don't know it's spine but I bet it would work for you, based on the fact that I can use either trads or trad lights on my 60 lb bows.

[damascusdave]

Seems to me a 1916 aluminum would be worth considering...carbon is not your only other choice

DDave

[Prairie Drifter]

Originally posted by Paul_R:
 

Originally posted by Prairie Drifter:
I'm a little confused, do you mean 8 grs per pound of bow weight(gpp)?

I mean 8 grains per inch (gpi). They come in 3, 5, and 8 gpi. Check out the video:

   weight tubes  [/b]

Paul, I was referring to the OP. I know about the tubes, I use them.

[Paul_R]

Oh sorry PD I wasn't sure.

[alex321]

Originally posted by Prairie Drifter:
[qb] I'm a little confused, do you mean 8 grs per pound of bow weight(gpp)?

Sorry, I did not make myself clear.  I meant gpi. Using the 8 grains per pound of draw weight, I need about 320 grains total weight.  Which minus 80 grains for tip is 250 grains.  For an arrow at 26", this works out at about 9 grns per inch of arrow.  this is not possible to find in the higher spines (eg 600), but I would like something near.

Thanks
ALex

[Prairie Drifter]

Well, your shooting less than 35 pounds at your draw. There is no way a .600 spine arrow at 26" w/ only a 80gr point will spine correctly. That arrow will be way stiff. I can shoot a .600 spine at 27" for up to 50lbs and need at minimum 150grs of tip weight. This is from bows with the shelf cut just before center.