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what tree is this

Started by M P Clark, May 29, 2014, 07:27:00 PM

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M P Clark

Can someone help me identified this tree species. My dad thinks its walnut. The bark is very dark, very thick, and has deep valleys. When you cut through the bark, the under layer starts bright yellow and quickly changes to bright orange. The first wood layer appears almost solid white. The leaves have a main shoot with leaves on both sides. Leaves are football shape and couldn't tell if they are serated. Here are some picks.
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britt

Leaves look like walnut. But the walnut around here has darker bark.
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Do you have pictures of the leafs and trig junctions.
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rraming

Black walnut I think, does it drop green balls all over the place that the squirrels eat?  If so the heartwood is valuable if you can find someone to pay you for it. If you are in a city, they usually will not.

M P Clark

I couldn't get close enough to the leaves. Tallest one was probably 80 + feet. Trunk was about 3 feet. I'm 6' and still had six inches to go when I hugged it. (I know tree hugger). The trunks grow pretty straight then will take a angler bend of maybe 8 to 10 degrees. Go straight again and the bend again.  Location was in western wv, near Huntington.

M P Clark

I'm going to harvest a couple trees off the property. I've picked a large wild cherry, walnut would be great too. Just not sure what this tree would be. Any chance it could be osage orange?

PaulDeadringer29

Looks like walnut to me too.

M P Clark

I'm not selling the wood. Keeping it projects / wood working and of course bow building.

One last thing that stood out. It had these green finger looking sprouts. Kinda looked like fuze balls connected together in a line. 4 or 5 grouped together about 5 inches long.

macbow

Not Osage, Osage leaves are alternating.
Walnut.  How about pecan?
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ScouterMike

That looks like a butternut tree. Also called a white walnut. They are apparently getting scarce because of a fungus disease.
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JDBerry

Maybe a Flowering Locust?

Knawbone

The Butternut tree is usually smaller than it's cousin the Black Walnut, but the bark and catkins tells me it could be a very large Butternut. Butternuts prefer a colder climate than the Walnut, so the location of the tree corresponds especially if it's growing at altitude. Butternuts can reach 3' in dia. and 90' tall. Tea made from the inner bark was used as a laxative and dye for cloths ect. I have also used it's nut hulls as well as the walnut's hulls as a trap dye. Wood is soft and not considered a good bow wood. The bark bark and size of the tree however points to the tree being a B. Walnut. Butternut bark is a medium grey color with a simular texture. From the picture I would say it's a Black Walnut.
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M P Clark

Been surfing images and leaning towards the black walnut. Which will make me happy. Although was kinda hoping for osage. No way are we going to harvest that monster tree though. Probably one with a diameter of a foot to foot and a half.  Thanks guys for you thoughts.

Orion

Yellow is unusual for walnut, even in the sapwood area.  Good chance it's Black locust, a relative of Osage that makes a good bow.

HMlongbow

I believe that to be a beach walnut if not mistaken from my tree trimming days

Knawbone

That's interesting Hitman,I'v have never heard of Beach Walnut, but that would explain the yellow underbark.The leaves are too pointed to be locust, and the size of the trunk is too large also.
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jackdaw

Dwfinately not a dogwood....you can tell them by their "bark"...ha!
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Stump73

Easiest way to tell osage is the friut are green and its the size of grape fruit and looks like brains. Other name is headgeapple. The heart wood is bright yellow. The tree itself is usually twisted up and sometimes hard to find straight enough logs to get a good length for a bow.
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