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Offline Wal

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longer draw curve
« on: June 23, 2014, 07:33:00 AM »
Hi Guys,
This is Wal's son Tyler
I'm looking at getting back into shooting a little bit of recurve.
My problem is that I am a 32 inch draw and am having trouble finding a curve that wont stack up on me.
Dad had a cascade golden hawk magnum 52" in 60lb, but he got rid of it cause he was looking at buying something else. I could shoot it well, really should have bought it off him I think.
the cascade and a longbow a mate made up for me and a mates 80lb war bow type thing are the only trad bows I've shot at full draw without them stacking on me.

Im not really looking at spending a lot but think I might have to.

Im Thinking about a cascade night hawk.

Thanks for any help

Offline halfseminole

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Re: longer draw curve
« Reply #1 on: June 26, 2014, 08:53:00 PM »
I have a Kassai Greyhound ordered that doesn't stack to 38".  Incidentally, that's my maximum draw.  Ed at horsebows.com has a LOT of bows that will fit you.  With a normal draw of 36" I have the issue as well.

Offline Dave Worden

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Re: longer draw curve
« Reply #2 on: July 04, 2014, 06:33:00 AM »
I shoot a Shakespeare Super Necedah (54") that doesn't stack out to my 30 1/2" draw length.  I think, in general terms, you'll want a longer bow (less liklihood of stack) but specifically, you'll probably need to try the bow before you shoot it.  Whether a bow stacks or not is mostly determined by tillering.  The same model of bow made by two different employees or even by the same guy on different days are likely to be somewhat different in tillering.  You guys with really long draw lengths really need to shoot it before you buy it.  BTW, if you/your dad had a 52" that didn't stack to 32" I'd say you had a rare bow.
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Re: longer draw curve
« Reply #3 on: July 04, 2014, 06:47:00 AM »
Look into a PSA Widow at 64" built to your specs.Or any good bowyer could build you a bow that will work for you but i would bet that almost all will say 62" to 64". JMO
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Re: longer draw curve
« Reply #4 on: July 04, 2014, 09:08:00 AM »
Whether it stacks or not, most short bows (52-54 inches) are going to create a lot of finger pinch at a 32-inch draw. Most re also going to stack substantially. For a 32-inch draw, I'd recommend at least a 64-inch recurve (as wtp recommends) and even longer longbow, 68 inches or more.

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Re: longer draw curve
« Reply #5 on: July 04, 2014, 09:38:00 AM »
32" draw here. Using a Black Widow PCHX. 60" It has a very short riser and allows for long working limb. Tried a lot of bows. This is the smoothest no stack no finger pinch I have used. 1 bow I have not tried is the longer riser Black Widows. You can get a longer bow that way but I don't know if you gain draw advantage.
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Re: longer draw curve
« Reply #6 on: July 04, 2014, 10:53:00 AM »
Yep.  Belly mounted limbs generally aren't flexed as much for a given draw length vis-a-vis back mounted limbs so you can get by with a bit shorter bow without increasing finger pinch.

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Re: longer draw curve
« Reply #7 on: July 04, 2014, 11:03:00 AM »
ILF is your friend.  I'd find a 19-21" riser and some long or x-long limbs and prepare for smiles.

That would be the easiest route IMHO.  Find a riser you like the grip on, and then find limbs either longs or x-longs that suit your needs.  

You could go non-ILF, but it won't necessarily be as easy to find something that works.  There are short bows out there that can handle your draw and be good for hunting but it all depends on what you wanna accomplish.  

Do research and best advice is call or email some bowyers to discuss your needs.
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Re: longer draw curve
« Reply #8 on: July 04, 2014, 04:44:00 PM »
I Also have a long draw. That's why I designed Legends bows to be smooth out to 32". I would advise you to stay around 64" . We build a 60" recurve that I can shoot but its not my personal bow of choice at my draw. I like the Safari Elite or New Leaf models in the recurves. Check us out on our website or our Facebook page.

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Re: longer draw curve
« Reply #9 on: July 04, 2014, 06:55:00 PM »
I have a 31.5" draw, sometimes 32".  You definitely need a 64" recurve.

Samick Archery makes a 64" recurve that is fairly inexpensive, yet I've heard lots of good things about it.

Don't let anyone talk you into a 62" bow. Get the 64" for sure.

Here's a link to it. It's called the Samick Journey.  Same as the Samick Sage, but its 64" long.

 http://www.lancasterarchery.com/samick-journey-64-takedown-bow.html
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Offline halfseminole

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Re: longer draw curve
« Reply #10 on: July 04, 2014, 11:43:00 PM »
My personal bow can handle 36" draw without issue, and it's 50" strung.  What you want is easily possible, you just have to talk to bowyers beforehand.  The guy that built mine is scars, he occasionally shows up on the bowyer's bench.  The bow I have is nothing short of phenomenal.

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Re: longer draw curve
« Reply #11 on: July 04, 2014, 11:51:00 PM »
I have the same draw as you and I finally figured out after a couple of shorter bows that I need at least a 64" bow. If they are low enough draw weight I can shoot shorter bows well but hunting weight bows they have to be longer. I'm currently shooting a 64" Dryad ACS longbow and have no stacking problems.
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Re: longer draw curve
« Reply #12 on: July 05, 2014, 12:04:00 AM »
I'm 6'3" and draw 31".  I like 62" recurve bows, but have 56" bows that I can get away with.  Most recently I'm shooting a 58" Shakespeare Necedah.  No stack at my draw length.

To stack is not the end - it just gets to be more effort.  So if you last inch adds 5# instead of 2-1/2# but is still within your comfortable draw weight it's not a problem.
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Re: longer draw curve
« Reply #13 on: July 05, 2014, 01:20:00 AM »
I draw 32.5" and shoot a 64" Black Widow PMA without any problems with stacking or finger pinch.
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Re: longer draw curve
« Reply #14 on: July 05, 2014, 02:54:00 AM »
RER XR 62" and caribow tuktu EX 62" are both really confortable up to 32-32,5"
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Re: longer draw curve
« Reply #15 on: July 05, 2014, 09:44:00 AM »
Hey tyler iv got a few bows hear that might suit you including a 64" habu bushmaster g2 That if u want to have a shot of it before I get rid of it I can take it to bendigos 2dayer if your going
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Re: longer draw curve
« Reply #16 on: July 06, 2014, 01:30:00 PM »
I shoot a 64" Widow PMA 31" draw. Draws like butter all the way

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Re: longer draw curve
« Reply #17 on: July 07, 2014, 07:17:00 PM »
Does anyone make wood arrows for us? Un-spliced.
I think people are a bit larger in general than in the 1920's why is the standard arrow only 32" long?
Also I wish they would cut carbons 1/2 longer.
The three rivers trad only .300 are 33" long. I use those.
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Re: longer draw curve
« Reply #18 on: July 07, 2014, 09:14:00 PM »
Easton makes carbons and aluminum 43 1/2" long.  They're marketed as kyudo arrows.  You can get bamboo sized for the same.  For wood I'm looking at footing 32" shafts with Reparrows for my first set, and learning to cut them with the band saw after that.

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Re: longer draw curve
« Reply #19 on: July 07, 2014, 09:30:00 PM »
My draw length was always long. But over the last few years has increased. Probably because I go to the gym and got stronger.
I have an excellent Acadian Woods longbow. The RF/DF modern type of long bow. I really like it. Shot it for several years.  It pounds an arrow into the target.  It's a little short for my draw length but I was so used to it that I didn't know it except for sore fingers. After shooting the BW recurve for few months I tried the Acadian Woods for a change and could not believe how it was stacking at the last inch or so. It's too short for me. It's not a bad bow design. I plan to get another Acadian Woods someday but will make sure the bowyer knows my draw length and get a different length or recurve.
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