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Author Topic: tab is tearing me up  (Read 661 times)

Offline 2bird

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tab is tearing me up
« on: July 10, 2014, 02:15:00 PM »
I got a new tab (new Hoyt Dorado too:)) it's a black widow 3 under leather tab. i have already trimmed the heck out of it but it still keeps tearing my face up... the leather is super stiff and sharp, i have tried nocking the edge off with a small file but it hasn’t helped... any suggestions? i like the clean release of a tab but i always seem to have this problem no matter what tab i use or how much i trim... i had to switch back to my glove last night because my face was bleeding :/
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Re: tab is tearing me up
« Reply #1 on: July 10, 2014, 02:22:00 PM »
You need a Soft tab.  If you anchor high up on your face at all you need the tab to conform to your face.  The BW is too rigid of a tab.  Neet makes one you might try.  I would get the calf hair.  Not sure where you could get one.

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Re: tab is tearing me up
« Reply #2 on: July 10, 2014, 02:32:00 PM »
Ok, I do have a high anchor...
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Re: tab is tearing me up
« Reply #3 on: July 10, 2014, 02:46:00 PM »
I was having the same problem recently, I decided to move my anchor point from my index finger behind upper canine to thumb joint behind my jaw bone.  I also think this helps keep me from collapsing.

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Re: tab is tearing me up
« Reply #4 on: July 10, 2014, 02:49:00 PM »
2bird

Don't feel alone! I shoot 3 under and have always had the same problem. I have been using the cordovan finger stalled super glove or the 3R dura glove
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Re: tab is tearing me up
« Reply #5 on: July 10, 2014, 03:24:00 PM »
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Originally posted by 2bird:
I always seem to have this problem no matter what tab i use or how much i trim... i had to switch back to my glove last night because my face was bleeding :/
Believe it or not but it is impossible to hurt your face with any tab if you had a clean release, just not possible.  the problem must be with your form, torque on string, not expanding at release so not getting a clean release.

I'm not the expert but had similar issue and once I was taught correct form and expanding back to release issue stopped. If string hand and tab come back toward shoulder how could they hurt your face?  I just started shooting a stiffer Cordovan 3 under tab without issue.

Just my opinion, just trying hard to learn correctly.  A soft tab just lets you be more comfortable while not having correct form.
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Re: tab is tearing me up
« Reply #6 on: July 10, 2014, 03:26:00 PM »
I never have any problems with a glove just only tabs... What if I sewed a think peice of leather where i place my string on my glove? Do you think i could get the same release as a tab - the pain?
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Re: tab is tearing me up
« Reply #7 on: July 10, 2014, 03:30:00 PM »
Make your own soft tab either from cordovan or regular leather...very simple.  Been shooting my own tabs for many Decades...not just years! tippit

   

   
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Re: tab is tearing me up
« Reply #8 on: July 10, 2014, 03:37:00 PM »
Without seeing what you are doing (form) or how your tab fits (tippit's pictures are good for fit!) it will be impossible to really help.  I will repeat something I say a lot though,  "IF something hurts or is hurting you, SOMETHING is wrong!"  AND it is most likely NOT the equipment!

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Re: tab is tearing me up
« Reply #9 on: July 10, 2014, 03:59:00 PM »
I will work on posting some picture/video of my form and tab fit. I would not doubt that maybe my tab is not fitting correctly.
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Re: tab is tearing me up
« Reply #10 on: July 10, 2014, 10:06:00 PM »
So I wasn't able to make a video tonight but I did make a quick deer skin tab, no possible way could deer leather hurt me (well my face anyway, fingers is a different story lol).... Well the pain was not AS bad but I still had noticeable smacking to my face... Think it's my string, I'm guessing when I wear a glove there is more of a gap between the string and my face and with a tab well not so much... I know I anchor close to my face, I use to have a problem with ripping my nose off with my string until I started turning my head more towards my bow arm. I wonder if I turn my head farther to the left if this whole tab issue might just go away?
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Re: tab is tearing me up
« Reply #11 on: July 10, 2014, 11:14:00 PM »
Never mind my last, I decided that either a tab is going to work with my current anchor or I will just shoot a glove as I am very comfortable where I'm at now and it works... So I decided to trim some more, if I trimmed to much oh well maybe I would get lucky... I did, it now works perfect with no pain. I never thought I would have to trim that much off but it works.
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Re: tab is tearing me up
« Reply #13 on: July 10, 2014, 11:19:00 PM »
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Re: tab is tearing me up
« Reply #14 on: July 10, 2014, 11:20:00 PM »
Ha finally figured out how to post a pic lol
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Re: tab is tearing me up
« Reply #15 on: July 11, 2014, 08:43:00 AM »
Is it the scraping of your face that you are feeling?  I remember when I first went to a tab, I tried to cover my fingers completely.  The edge near my eye would occasionally catch my glasses & flip them off.

Never shot one of those...but it looks like the square edges might be stiff & sharp.  If you are ready to throw it out, try breaking those edges down by rolling & flexing or just trim them round.
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Re: tab is tearing me up
« Reply #16 on: July 11, 2014, 08:52:00 AM »
I have had zero issues with this tab may be because the corners are rounded. The tab in the pic looks like the edge is sharp.

 http://www.3riversarchery.com/3-fingers+under+cordovan+tab_iTC3X_baseitem.html
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Re: tab is tearing me up
« Reply #17 on: July 11, 2014, 09:18:00 AM »
I will defiantly be rounding the edges
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Re: tab is tearing me up
« Reply #18 on: July 11, 2014, 09:33:00 AM »
Here is one.  

   http://www.3riversarchery.com/fred+eichler+3-under+cordovan+leather+shooting+tab_i5075X_baseitem.html  

It would be easy to trim.  When I tried the BW tab the issues was on my cheek, and due to the stitching I could not trim it smaller.  

I have made many tabs like the one that Tippit showed.  They work very well.  Having a tight anchor into my face is important to accurate shooting for me.  I like my hand into my cheek tight, and the edge of a tab is like a BLADE!  Ouch!  

Today, I shoot a $12.00 Neet soft glove, as I like that better for my hunting needs, and see no changing in the future.  Tabs do give you a great release.
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Re: tab is tearing me up
« Reply #19 on: July 11, 2014, 10:26:00 AM »
Call Ol'e Buff Archery/Richard Brotzman. I've tried all the "popular" 3 under tabs and his elk leather with nylon overlays tab is without question the nicest 3 under tab I've ever used. Super soft, but super slick at the same time. I just bought 5 of them so I have a lifetime supply. If American Leathers made a tab, it would be just like these. He's old school, no website. But he has a brochure. He even makes atlatl points, if you're into that. His number is 785-494-2797.

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