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Author Topic: ? about Black Widow  (Read 471 times)

Offline c_lantz

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? about Black Widow
« on: September 24, 2007, 01:46:00 PM »
Is there any difference in a black widow saii made in 1998 and present. What would it be worth in good shape? Also what is the difference between a tiller for 1 finger over and three under?

Offline c_lantz

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Re: ? about Black Widow
« Reply #1 on: September 24, 2007, 01:57:00 PM »
ttt

Offline Dave Bulla

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Re: ? about Black Widow
« Reply #2 on: September 24, 2007, 02:27:00 PM »
Not sure, but I seem to recall that BW did some sort of major (minor?) limb change within the last 5 years or so.  

Worth?  I think they are awfully expensive but I know for a fact that they are very good bows and I certainly can't say anything bad about their performance, quality or service.  It's just WOW, that's a lot of money for a bow... Especially when they mostly all look exactly alike.  I was really glad to see them start offering something besides the laminated woods.  Of course I'm a po'boy.  If money was no object, I'd probably have a couple of them hanging on the wall.

Just a wild guess, for a '98 in good condition in a hunting weight....I suspect the seller would want between 500 and 700 but I wouldn't be suprised if they wanted a tad more.  After all, a new one is probably over a grand by a good bit.  Last I looked they were around 1100 and that was a couple years ago.

A fair indicator of current value is one of the online auction places that I'm sure you know about but often that is somewhat false too due to collectors driving up prices on certain bows.  Bears and Widows being two of the most common.  Also, the start of archery season usually sees an uptic in prices too.  Best time to buy is usually about February to May in my opinion.
Dave


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Offline TaterHill Archer

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Re: ? about Black Widow
« Reply #3 on: September 24, 2007, 02:38:00 PM »
Some differences.  I had a 1998 BW SAII.  It did not have the phenolic riser and the shelf extension the new ones have.  You can also get a regular grip or Asbell grip on the new ones.  Also, the new ones are CNC milled.  The 1998 model may have been as well, I'm not sure, but the new ones have higher tolerances.

The 1998 bow is a good one with very little differences where it matters.  Its a good bow.
Jeff

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Offline Larry247

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Re: ? about Black Widow
« Reply #4 on: September 24, 2007, 02:49:00 PM »
I have a new one and a 97 model sa11. Personally i like the 97 model better. The only differance that i can tell is the weight. The phenolic makes'em a little heavier.
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Offline Rick_H

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Re: ? about Black Widow
« Reply #5 on: September 24, 2007, 03:25:00 PM »
The current versions are made with a CNC machine and are called P**** for precision, I think this started in 2003, but may be wrong. The new limbs will work on an older riser but there is small gap between them. BW will reshape older limbs and risers for a fee. I bought a 2001 SAII in August for $525, the new version sells for $910, so there are "bargains" to be had. You could call BW with any questions, but they won't teel you what a bow is worth.

Offline Otto

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Re: ? about Black Widow
« Reply #6 on: September 24, 2007, 03:28:00 PM »
Biggest change occurred back in 1987.  That was the year the limbs became FF compatible.  You need to call BW with a serial number and they can tell you if your limbs are FF compatible or not.
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Offline c_lantz

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Re: ? about Black Widow
« Reply #7 on: September 24, 2007, 03:38:00 PM »
Can you shoot a tillered bow, with 3 fingers under?

Offline Shawn Leonard

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Re: ? about Black Widow
« Reply #8 on: September 24, 2007, 04:23:00 PM »
Can ya shoot a bow tillered for split finger, 3 under? Yes, it usually just requires a bit higher nocking point than usual. Shawn
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Offline daveycrockett

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Re: ? about Black Widow
« Reply #9 on: September 24, 2007, 05:49:00 PM »
How bout shoot'in one tillered 3 under split?

Offline Shawn Leonard

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Re: ? about Black Widow
« Reply #10 on: September 24, 2007, 05:54:00 PM »
Yup, ya can do that as well. It makes a slight difference but 95% of us Trad guys are not good enough to know the difference in accuracy. I am not getting in a discussion on how guys shoot because I have seen many and know! Shawn
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