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Author Topic: I love wooden arrows, however,..  (Read 818 times)

Offline Critch

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I love wooden arrows, however,..
« on: July 27, 2014, 08:41:00 PM »
I was shooting some Easton Axis 500 arrows yesterday. They have traditional fletching and a wood grain appearance,,,good Lord they fly straight, silent and fast....I may invest in 6 ore of these...

I'm always torn about how far to go with traditional...accuracy and speed count for something...
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Re: I love wooden arrows, however,..
« Reply #1 on: July 27, 2014, 08:51:00 PM »
I love the Axis Trads, love the Beman Centershots even more, same look with a traditional insert and a little cheaper.
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Re: I love wooden arrows, however,..
« Reply #2 on: July 27, 2014, 08:54:00 PM »
hey buddy if they shoot good and ya hit the spot thats all ya  need. me i love river cane arrows when i can get em as they do it for me.
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Re: I love wooden arrows, however,..
« Reply #3 on: July 27, 2014, 09:05:00 PM »
I love wood arrows. I love making them and shooting them.
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Re: I love wooden arrows, however,..
« Reply #4 on: July 27, 2014, 09:17:00 PM »
I love wood arrows too,really miss that Cedar smell when tapering them or picking up two pieces that use to be one.


 No arguing the longevity of carbon though,or the penetration,when compared to woods.

  See you later Cedars,it's all about carbon for me.

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Re: I love wooden arrows, however,..
« Reply #5 on: July 27, 2014, 09:38:00 PM »
I love the smell of cedar, but I love the taste of tenderloin better. Since my Beman/Axis arrows fly better and out-penetrate my P.O. cedars, I'll be found using carbon...the original organic material.     ;)

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Re: I love wooden arrows, however,..
« Reply #6 on: July 27, 2014, 10:25:00 PM »
I have tried both. For me I need all the help I can get ..... So   i shoot carbon.
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Offline Critch

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Re: I love wooden arrows, however,..
« Reply #7 on: July 27, 2014, 10:55:00 PM »
Is anyone up for a dumb question? I bought these arrows from a shop that was going out of business....my arrows are marked  "500  8.9 gr GPI", I know the "8.9" is grains per inch, but what is the "500"?

These shoot very well out of my Samick Sage 45 LB recurve.

I was looking on various sites at arrows offered there and I see some as 250, 350, 400 etc, but no explanation of what it means.
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Re: I love wooden arrows, however,..
« Reply #8 on: July 27, 2014, 10:58:00 PM »
No such thing as a dumb question. The 500 is arrow spine

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Re: I love wooden arrows, however,..
« Reply #9 on: July 27, 2014, 11:09:00 PM »
Purely by chance, according to some the charts out there, I happened on the right arrows for my bow...Cool beans as we used to say in our long haired days..
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Re: I love wooden arrows, however,..
« Reply #10 on: July 27, 2014, 11:39:00 PM »
dont do it
Shooting anything other than wood arrows out of a traditional bow is....strange."

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Re: I love wooden arrows, however,..
« Reply #11 on: July 28, 2014, 06:07:00 AM »
Same topic but I just bought two dozen cedar shafts from 3Rivers which were marked 55-60#. After staining and coating the 30" shafts and applying a wrap with nocks and a 125 gr point I went to shoot one unfletched shaft to see how it might fly.  It broke in half as soon as it hit the target.

I thought this was rather strange so I tried another one.  Same thing happened.  This is just a cardboard box stuffed with cellophane wrap so it isn't hitting a hard surface. Just as strange is that the shafts were showing very weak out of a 45# bow so I cut another shaft to 28.5" and replaced the 125 gr point with a top hat adapter (40gr) and a 75gr field point for a total of 115gr and it still showed weak (bending to the right for a right handed shooter) and again it splintered in half at about 6" back from the point.

Is it possible that these shafts are defective or mismarked?  I have been shooting carbons exclusively and now experimenting with woodies but  this isn't very encouraging.

 Doug
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Re: I love wooden arrows, however,..
« Reply #12 on: July 28, 2014, 06:16:00 AM »
I never bare shaft wooden shafts cause they will break every time they hit the target unless they are pretty well straight on.
 It is possible that they could have been spined wrong. If it were me I would fletch up 3 and just see how they shoot. I would suggest if you are serious about shooting wood is to by or make you a spine tester. You can make one for $50.00 or less.
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Re: I love wooden arrows, however,..
« Reply #13 on: July 28, 2014, 06:17:00 AM »
I would gladly give up shooting wooden arrows, but I with my light draw weight and short draw length I cannot find an arrow which bareshafts well with a reasonable pile weight of 125 grn.  Also, the woods seem to fly better...

So now, i have taken up making arrows and fixing them... There is a certain amount of satisfaction in that, but i would rather be out shooting...
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Re: I love wooden arrows, however,..
« Reply #14 on: July 28, 2014, 07:27:00 AM »
I think what you shoot is a very individual decision. For me I found that just like learning to shoot a stick bow well, the crafting of wood arrows that leave little to be desired to other materials can be accomplished for hunting proposes.

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Re: I love wooden arrows, however,..
« Reply #15 on: July 28, 2014, 07:38:00 AM »
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Originally posted by dougedwards:
Same topic but I just bought two dozen cedar shafts from 3Rivers which were marked 55-60#. After staining and coating the 30" shafts and applying a wrap with nocks and a 125 gr point I went to shoot one unfletched shaft to see how it might fly.  It broke in half as soon as it hit the target.

I thought this was rather strange so I tried another one.  Same thing happened.  This is just a cardboard box stuffed with cellophane wrap so it isn't hitting a hard surface. Just as strange is that the shafts were showing very weak out of a 45# bow so I cut another shaft to 28.5" and replaced the 125 gr point with a top hat adapter (40gr) and a 75gr field point for a total of 115gr and it still showed weak (bending to the right for a right handed shooter) and again it splintered in half at about 6" back from the point.

Is it possible that these shafts are defective or mismarked?  I have been shooting carbons exclusively and now experimenting with woodies but  this isn't very encouraging.

 Doug
Did you make sure the grain orientation was correct when you glued the nocks on?

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Re: I love wooden arrows, however,..
« Reply #16 on: July 28, 2014, 09:02:00 AM »
Shoot what you like. You may find you like both. I have shot wood, aluminum, and fiberglass through the years and liked them all. Good wood arrows will shoot more accurately than you or anybody on this forum can hold, but still, some will like carbon. No problem - that's why they make different types of arrows.
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Re: I love wooden arrows, however,..
« Reply #17 on: July 28, 2014, 09:07:00 AM »
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Originally posted by dougedwards:
Same topic but I just bought two dozen cedar shafts from 3Rivers which were marked 55-60#. After staining and coating the 30" shafts and applying a wrap with nocks and a 125 gr point I went to shoot one unfletched shaft to see how it might fly.  It broke in half as soon as it hit the target.

I thought this was rather strange so I tried another one.  Same thing happened.  This is just a cardboard box stuffed with cellophane wrap so it isn't hitting a hard surface. Just as strange is that the shafts were showing very weak out of a 45# bow so I cut another shaft to 28.5" and replaced the 125 gr point with a top hat adapter (40gr) and a 75gr field point for a total of 115gr and it still showed weak (bending to the right for a right handed shooter) and again it splintered in half at about 6" back from the point.

Is it possible that these shafts are defective or mismarked?  I have been shooting carbons exclusively and now experimenting with woodies but  this isn't very encouraging.

 Doug
This is pretty common when bareshafting woodies.  I find that bareshafting usually gives me a shaft the is much stiffer than I really need.  You might try fletching and comparing field points to BHs.

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Re: I love wooden arrows, however,..
« Reply #18 on: July 28, 2014, 09:45:00 AM »
Ahh,the smell of cedar. Someone needs to invent a carbon shaft that smells like cedar. Hmmmm.

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Re: I love wooden arrows, however,..
« Reply #19 on: July 28, 2014, 11:16:00 AM »
Monkeyball just cut up some of those cedar scent air conditioners for your car and shove one inside your carbons...smells like cedar and adds a little weight forward...   :biglaugh:
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