Lineman belts prussic knots and tethers

[Missing Impossible]

To the OP, you state that you dye the rope you buy for your needs.  Could you please tell us how long the rope, that you say is near waterproof, will stay in color?

[LB_hntr]

Originally posted by Missing Impossible:
Picked up this from ****  WILD COUNTRY NEW ROPEMAN 2 SET - Ascent plus belay set.

An assenter which spans 8-13mm and a locking carabineer. Not as cheap as the OP's video states but This was a spot price as I was buying tonight.  Now on to REI.

Thanks OP!

Let me know how you like the Rope man 2. I saw that same set up with the #2 and the locking biner. I see the #2 has different teeth on the cam. Im curious to see how it works out.

[LB_hntr]

Originally posted by Missing Impossible:
To the OP, you state that you dye the rope you buy for your needs.  Could you please tell us how long the rope, that you say is near waterproof, will stay in color?

Cant really answer that yet. I have been using climbing rope for many years but this is my first time buying a huge amount. the cost difference was about 40 cents a foot between white and colored rope. So i figured id just dye it.
  I did dye it with rit dye and it worked like a champ. I used dark brown. rope took the dye very easy. the dye is made to do nylon and color it permentently. the sheath on the climbing rope is nylon so it should last very well. If it fades or wears i will let you know but i dont see that happening. Even if it did I could re dye it fast and easy.
 You can get the rope colored if you dont want to dye it. Thats what I always did when i only needed  a few feet for a lineman belt. But with this big order I didn't want to pay the extra 50 bucks to get colored.
  The rope is not waterproof but does not hold water line the soft ropes do. With the soft ropes when you hunt in the rain and throw the belt in your pack everything in your pack gets wet. With climbing rope it is more damp than wet and nothing in your pack gets wet.
 Another plus to the climbing rope is it doesnt snag on the tree or collect burs like the soft ropes do.

[Bill Frederick]

LB, can you share with us why you prefer 11 mm rope?  As you point out the load rating is really high.  To save weight and bulk, any reason not to go to a smaller diameter for the "average sized" person?

Thanks for the sharing the info.  Appreciated the video.

Bill

[LB_hntr]

Originally posted by Bill Frederick:
LB, can you share with us why you prefer 11 mm rope?  As you point out the load rating is really high.  To save weight and bulk, any reason not to go to a smaller diameter for the "average sized" person?

Thanks for the sharing the info.  Appreciated the video.

Bill

Bill the Ropeman Ascender is rated for 10-13mm rope so i picked 11mm as it was in the middle...lol.

They now make a ropeman 2 that is rated for 8mm-13mm rope but i have not used one yet. the cam has different teeth and its about 15 bucks more for the ropeman 2. So i just still with the ropeman 1 and the 11mm rope out of habit.
  The 11mm rope is very light weight and not bulky. But you can get 8mm rope that is plenty strong enough but you need the ropeman 2 to use the ascender.

[LB_hntr]

here is my lineman belt with the ascender. In the back is a 25 foot tether I will use for my kids when they hunt with me.
both are the white pmi rope dyed with Rit brown fabric dye.
 

[Doc Nock]

Grandma always taught us to put a 1/2 cup of vinegar in our Ritt Dye broth to "set" the color...

I bought some camo once that suggested the same thing...to soak the camo when new in water treated with 1/2 C of vinegar... let it dry, then wash as usual.

Just a thought... the vinegar smell will dissipate quickly or can be rinsed out after the dying is done!

[LB_hntr]

Originally posted by Doc Nock:
Grandma always taught us to put a 1/2 cup of vinegar in our Ritt Dye broth to "set" the color...

I bought some camo once that suggested the same thing...to soak the camo when new in water treated with 1/2 C of vinegar... let it dry, then wash as usual.

Just a thought... the vinegar smell will dissipate quickly or can be rinsed out after the dying is done!

Dave,
Great tip!. Your Grandma was on to something because the Vinegar works so good they actually put that step in the directions on the bottle now.

[Missing Impossible]

LB_ hntr, thanks for the dyed rope pic, your results will work for me.  

I plan on using the ascender on my linesman belt to counter not being able to tighten the prussic with climbing with one hand.  I'll then use the dyed rope for my individual stands as tether ropes with prussic.

As an aside, becoming a member of REI has several benefits including large discounts and the ability to return items with no questions asked.

Thank you again OP for the informative video!

Michael

[LB_hntr]

Originally posted by Missing Impossible:
LB_ hntr, thanks for the dyed rope pic, your results will work for me.  

I plan on using the ascender on my linesman belt to counter not being able to tighten the prussic with climbing with one hand.  I'll then use the dyed rope for my individual stands as tether ropes with prussic.

As an aside, becoming a member of REI has several benefits including large discounts and the ability to return items with no questions asked.

Thank you again OP for the informative video!

Michael

Sounds like a great plan. Just make sure your lineman belt you want ot add the ascender to is 10mm-13mm rope as the ropeman is designed for 10-13mm climbing rope.
  Great tip about REI membership. I am a member! as a matter of fact i just used my dividend to get a new garmin gps. Love REI.

[Tim]

Incredible "how to" segment!         Thanks so much for sharing! Great, great stuff!

[twitchstick]

Perfect timing I was just looking for a good system. I was just going to put some together.  Thanks for sharing.

[Tim]

Just a heads up......

I found everything at Treestuff.com for very good prices.  The Ropeman 1 at $29.95 and the 150 ft of 11mm rope at $119.00.    

[SteveD]

Just order PMI rope and 7mm Prussic chord. Great podcast

[awbowman]

Thanks for the heads up on treestuff.com .  Got some nylon straps for a great price.

[Missing Impossible]

Just paid the $20 lifetime membership dues to REI and then ordered 30 feet of the 7mm cord for the prussic @12.95 and 60 meters(196 feet) of Maxim Apex 10.5mm rope for $134 because until tonight, REI has an additional 25% off of special buy items which saved me another $45 off that rope.  

If anyone is looking into this you might want to commit before midnight because this is an exceptional deal!  

That $134 rope is regularly $232!!  

Thanks again OP for the Vid as that pushed me into doing what I needed to make all my stands safe!
Mike

[Missing Impossible]

To the OP, the Ropeman 2 will accommodate ropes from 8 to 13mm.

[KSdan]

Also checked on things.  The Ropeman have had some recalls on #3. A younger/newer company- be careful.  I went with a Petzel for $29.  A little different than the Ropeman.  No moving parts. So far my trial seems doable.

One thing to be aware of is use in cold weather.  If you were to get the rope wet then hit freezing, or freezing rain etc these more simple descenders "may" fail.  Just a cautious warning.

Dan in KS

[Thadbow]

Thanks for sharing!

[Zbone]

Thanx for sharing...