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Author Topic: To the Bone! The primitive Rendezvous 2014  (Read 3573 times)

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Re: To the Bone! The primitive Rendezvous 2014
« Reply #40 on: August 18, 2014, 11:32:00 PM »
This was my first try at this. Next time ill use some smaller materials that will bend to my will more easily...
 

 

 

 

 
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Re: To the Bone! The primitive Rendezvous 2014
« Reply #41 on: August 19, 2014, 09:42:00 AM »
Great stuff.  Just don't post any pics of you in a loin cloth.      :D      :D
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Re: To the Bone! The primitive Rendezvous 2014
« Reply #42 on: August 20, 2014, 05:04:00 AM »
Looks like you've been busy Jim. The quiver is looking good. What is the average diameter of your arrow shafts? I still have only completed one shaft, three to go. I'll get back on completing my primitive equipment after this weekend.Have you received your obsidian yet?   :campfire:
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Re: To the Bone! The primitive Rendezvous 2014
« Reply #43 on: August 20, 2014, 05:43:00 AM »
Sure wish I had the time to try all of this. It looks really fun and gratifying. Great job! Thanks for the post, and good luck this season.
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Re: To the Bone! The primitive Rendezvous 2014
« Reply #44 on: August 21, 2014, 11:01:00 PM »
Ha ha ok Doug... no loin cloth.
David I've worked the shafts in different ways to get a more common weight and spine. I thing the bamboo will.have to wait, I love it but the redosier has been harder for me and therefore captivated me. I want to hunt with it. Putting a ruler to it to give you an answer I would say... 5/16 to 7/16... they carry through with the taper and my working on them. The obsidian came in. They are big pieces, almost 6" mostly. I have not played with it yet, ill let you know. I'm off tomorrow so I might go to Lechworth for the knapin...
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Re: To the Bone! The primitive Rendezvous 2014
« Reply #45 on: August 21, 2014, 11:21:00 PM »
I spent the early morning collecting smaller materials to try my second attempt at a quiver and then the rest of the day working on it and finishing the first one. I think if I did a third I could get exactly what I want but there are to many other things to do. I learned a lot though.

 

 

 

 

 
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Re: To the Bone! The primitive Rendezvous 2014
« Reply #46 on: August 21, 2014, 11:34:00 PM »
I still have to make a strap and put some fake fur in the bottom and Top edge to quiet the arrows. I hope to trap a critter in its prime this year and try to brain tan it to replace the fake fur... we will see. My organic bees wax came in with the obsidian so now I'm ready to try and make the pine pitch glue   :bigsmyl:
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Re: To the Bone! The primitive Rendezvous 2014
« Reply #47 on: August 22, 2014, 12:13:00 AM »
Jim and David you guys should go Letchworth Park this weekend for the stone tool show,lots of info there.
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Re: To the Bone! The primitive Rendezvous 2014
« Reply #48 on: August 22, 2014, 07:18:00 AM »
More cool stuff Jim. I'm going to Oxford to camp and shoot lots of 3d critters this weekend. I don't think I will make it to letchworth Sunday.That obsidian sounds perfect Jim. I'll have to order some. I think I can knapp well enough to make some heads. We shall see   :dunno:
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Re: To the Bone! The primitive Rendezvous 2014
« Reply #49 on: August 28, 2014, 03:38:00 PM »
Been making some progress and trying new things.
I experimented with beets for a natural stain on the bone tips with mixed feelings.
I took all the heads from 150 grit to 220 then 400. I was going further but to be honest was satisfied there.
 

 
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Re: To the Bone! The primitive Rendezvous 2014
« Reply #50 on: August 28, 2014, 03:50:00 PM »
This keeps getting better.  Will be watching
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Re: To the Bone! The primitive Rendezvous 2014
« Reply #51 on: August 28, 2014, 03:50:00 PM »
Looking at all my shafts I decided on a target weight of 700 grains knowing ill end slightly higher before I'm done. I matched specific bone hunting points to specific shafts to get close to 700 but That is still without the finish, feathers, sinue,etc.
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Re: To the Bone! The primitive Rendezvous 2014
« Reply #52 on: August 28, 2014, 04:02:00 PM »
I couldn't bring myself to glue on steel field points after all I've done so I went out to the shop and started to work on it. I came up with three designs to try, the third I was rather pleased with and would happily use again next time. All still need to be shot and actually tested in the field.
First try...  
All will get some sinew reinforcement...
 
2nd thought was a nail in the center
 

 

Third try was my favorite
 
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Re: To the Bone! The primitive Rendezvous 2014
« Reply #53 on: August 28, 2014, 04:19:00 PM »
All three seemed to glued up good.    

 

   

   
After 24hrs of drying it was time to sand down to 700 grains, I was pleased they all made it nicely.
 

   
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Re: To the Bone! The primitive Rendezvous 2014
« Reply #54 on: August 28, 2014, 04:30:00 PM »
Each shaft is very much an individual with a well documented history of spine and weight reduction. It's interesting to me and I didn't want to loose the ability to track their progress so I used a small wood burner to tattoo the number inside the self knock
 
This also identifies the stiff side of the arrow to be put against the bow when shooting.
The first coat of finish went on 14 shafts this morning... lots left to do but I'm having fun!

 
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Re: To the Bone! The primitive Rendezvous 2014
« Reply #55 on: August 28, 2014, 07:22:00 PM »
Holy smokes. Im thinking Ishi would ask you for advice. Really cool, imaginative stuff.
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Re: To the Bone! The primitive Rendezvous 2014
« Reply #56 on: August 28, 2014, 07:39:00 PM »
I figure four or five shafts should be enough for deer season.........How many deer you plan on killing Jim? LOL  Your nocks look great and the shafts look awesome buddy. Good work on those nice points too. I guess I'll have to step it up a notch,so my prim. equipment doesn't look sub par.HA HA I managed to whittle out one more shaft. Two more to go. I made a brass point for the first arrow I made and shot it to see how length, spine and tip weight would work out. I left the arrow weight FOC quite a bit and it shot good at 30 in. long with the additional 70 grns up front. I'll be posting that new BH design when I get it done. Excellent work Jim!   :thumbsup:    :campfire:
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Re: To the Bone! The primitive Rendezvous 2014
« Reply #57 on: August 28, 2014, 08:43:00 PM »
Ha ha... well NYS has not mailed me one tag yet. I have a lifetime licence and I thought it normally found it's way to me by now.
Do you have a picture of that brass point David? I would love to see it!
I've been working with that obsidian... yikes that is humbling. When I hit a platform and a full flake follows the ridge I planned I get a little excited..

 

 
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Re: To the Bone! The primitive Rendezvous 2014
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