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Author Topic: 3rd Bow string to break in 2 years?  (Read 769 times)

Offline MISSINGINOHIO

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3rd Bow string to break in 2 years?
« on: September 01, 2014, 09:32:00 PM »
I don't understand why two broke on the rack 3rd one at full draw all three at the nock. All nocks were tied on. None overly old but I do shoot a lot. I keep my bows strung. Anyone else have this happen or have any imformation. My buddy thump has never had one break and has been shooting a lot longer than me.
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Offline Marshallrobinson

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Re: 3rd Bow string to break in 2 years?
« Reply #1 on: September 01, 2014, 09:34:00 PM »
Never had this happen.
I dont like to think about it!!
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Sorry to hear this is going on with your bows  :(

Offline Scott E

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Re: 3rd Bow string to break in 2 years?
« Reply #2 on: September 01, 2014, 09:36:00 PM »
Do you use super glue on your tied on nocks?
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Offline MISSINGINOHIO

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Re: 3rd Bow string to break in 2 years?
« Reply #3 on: September 01, 2014, 09:40:00 PM »
Yes I use super glue but am very carefull to only use a tiny drop.That was my first thought but Thump uses it too and a never had one break.
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Re: 3rd Bow string to break in 2 years?
« Reply #4 on: September 01, 2014, 09:48:00 PM »
Marshall
Thanks this last one was a little spooky .
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Re: 3rd Bow string to break in 2 years?
« Reply #5 on: September 01, 2014, 09:56:00 PM »
Could it be that the glue you are using is causing a chemical reaction that destroys your string? Have you always used the same brand of glue? Makes ne appreciate my clamp on nocks.
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Re: 3rd Bow string to break in 2 years?
« Reply #6 on: September 01, 2014, 10:02:00 PM »
I believe its always been the same super glue bottle so it could be. I always was worried about the metal nocks but may have to go back to them.
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Re: 3rd Bow string to break in 2 years?
« Reply #7 on: September 01, 2014, 10:48:00 PM »
I change strings 2-3 times a year, and yeah I tie on nocks with superglue. I'm not a believer in the chemical reaction thing; I think the glue makes a stiff 'cutting edge' on the string. Also making the string come to a sharp angle hundreds of times per whatever will wear that area.

Offline Gen273

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Re: 3rd Bow string to break in 2 years?
« Reply #8 on: September 01, 2014, 11:12:00 PM »
Why not just tie your nock and melt the ends instead of using glue? I have done it this way for years without problems. I am not saying it is the best way, but just giving you an idea.
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Re: 3rd Bow string to break in 2 years?
« Reply #9 on: September 01, 2014, 11:34:00 PM »
The super glue has done it to me a couple of times. I pull the ends back through the wrap if I use serving material or burn off the tie ends on dental floss. When mine have broken I couldn't shoot for a couple of days till I got over the scare. So no glue for me.

Offline Piratkey

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Re: 3rd Bow string to break in 2 years?
« Reply #10 on: September 02, 2014, 03:32:00 AM »
I use super glue too but the black tube (loctite - super glue 3 - power flex - gel ) this one stay flexible and the gel dont penetrate deep ,no break string for me    :D

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Re: 3rd Bow string to break in 2 years?
« Reply #11 on: September 02, 2014, 05:58:00 AM »
A few weeks ago I posted a thread on this about many people don't check the inside of their nocks to see if they have any "FLASH" or in other words extra material at the seams of the nock when molded..
Check the throat where it slips on the string cause just a small bit of anything can start to fray the string material..Dirt,nocks that are too tight,nocks that might of got nicked when shooting a tight group could also cause the problem if some sort of damage was on the nock..Many other reasons to think about..

Offline Uncle Buck

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Re: 3rd Bow string to break in 2 years?
« Reply #12 on: September 02, 2014, 06:09:00 AM »
something is definitely going on I have never broken a string. I replace them when they start to "look worn" but i am not a fanatic about it. what about the nocks on your arrows? I am just throwing out a wild guess. I once had an endless loop sting that ripped the nocks of all my arrows unless I widened them with an emory board.

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Re: 3rd Bow string to break in 2 years?
« Reply #13 on: September 02, 2014, 07:12:00 AM »
Stop the super glue and see what happens.

Curious as the what string type and strand count?
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Re: 3rd Bow string to break in 2 years?
« Reply #14 on: September 02, 2014, 07:21:00 AM »
I use fletch tite instead of Super Glue,but I think the problems are the nock too tight .
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Re: 3rd Bow string to break in 2 years?
« Reply #15 on: September 02, 2014, 08:14:00 AM »
Yes, I've had the same thing happen - string broke while the bow was hanging on the rack. Veery lucky it wasn't earlier that day, at full draw.
There have been a couple of threads here on this.
A nock tied too tightly can compromise the serving, especially if the diameter of the nock material is not thicker than the serving material. Glue can also be a cause.
When using a tied nock now, I'm careful to use thicker material, and keep a close eye on the serving. Also I melt the tag ends into the tied nock, and avoid glue.

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Re: 3rd Bow string to break in 2 years?
« Reply #16 on: September 02, 2014, 08:17:00 AM »
In 2005 I was writing a training manual for a program I'm involved in. One of the chapters involved tying on nock locators. I had heard about the idea of using a dab of glue on the knots.

I called Ray at BCY (bowstring and serving maker) to ask him about this. He advised against it. He said bowstrings break at this glued point because the threads can become brittle.

I realize, as this thread illustrates, people have differing experiences with this technique. I have never had a tied nock locator come undone so I don't understand the need for glue. I would never use glue on these knots.

I may just be fortunate but I have never had a bowstring break since I started shooting in the mid-1960's.

By the way, the manual recommends against using glue on the knots.

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Re: 3rd Bow string to break in 2 years?
« Reply #17 on: September 02, 2014, 08:34:00 AM »
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Originally posted by Gen273:
Why not just tie your nock and melt the ends instead of using glue? I have done it this way for years without problems. I am not saying it is the best way, but just giving you an idea.
X2, 35 years and have never had a string break. Like said curios what your string is and how many strands?

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Re: 3rd Bow string to break in 2 years?
« Reply #18 on: September 02, 2014, 09:14:00 AM »
Just a guess, but what type of serving are you using? If nylon maybe the super glue is melting the serving, making a sharp point.

  I use Braided, with super glue, (for years) No probloms.  ..James

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Re: 3rd Bow string to break in 2 years?
« Reply #19 on: September 02, 2014, 09:20:00 AM »
Interesting discussion. I have used superglue for a long long time and never had an issue. Guess I wont from now on, just to be safe.

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