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Author Topic: Sharpening Concave heads..  (Read 485 times)

Offline DanielB89

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Sharpening Concave heads..
« on: September 13, 2014, 11:19:00 PM »
I am wondering what you fellas do to get those concave heads hunting sharp?  I know there is a link in the "how to" forum, but I do not have all the tools(grinder, KME, not all the different rocks) to sharpen the way Chris does it.  

Does anyone do anything different?  

OR,
If there is something I should invest in that is on the lower price side, let me know.  I can't see paying $100 for a sharpening system, whether it is worth it or not.  

Too many kettles in the fire as it is.
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Offline Caughtandhobble

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Re: Sharpening Concave heads..
« Reply #1 on: September 13, 2014, 11:37:00 PM »
I use the diamond stick that looks like a pen that goes on your pocket (or quiver, lol). I will follow the burr until I get the BH sharp. Once I get the BH sharp I will strop it on a leather strap, they will be plenty sharp. I had a lot of success with the Sharks last year, I hope to again this year, if there's any problems they won't be because of a dull Shark. Good Luck!!!

Offline Rob W.

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Re: Sharpening Concave heads..
« Reply #2 on: September 13, 2014, 11:44:00 PM »
Rada and a chainsaw file are all I use.
This stuff ain't no rocket surgery science!

Offline Slasher

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Re: Sharpening Concave heads..
« Reply #3 on: September 14, 2014, 12:00:00 AM »
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Rada and a chainsaw file are all I use.
I use the RaDa and a ceramic rod... I find it good enough for my centaur big gameheads...
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Re: Sharpening Concave heads..
« Reply #4 on: September 14, 2014, 05:53:00 AM »
Three sided Jewel Stick
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Offline Biggamefish

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Re: Sharpening Concave heads..
« Reply #5 on: September 14, 2014, 06:55:00 AM »
THe three sided jewel stick and the razors edge will get you shaving sharp.  It will run you around 50 to 75.  You really need a rounded file to sharpen them.  I have heard of people using a chainsaw file also.
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Offline Uncle Buck

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Re: Sharpening Concave heads..
« Reply #6 on: September 14, 2014, 07:01:00 AM »
My Gatco Sharpening Kit has a triangle shaped stone for use on serrations. I use it on concave or convex broadheads.

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Re: Sharpening Concave heads..
« Reply #7 on: September 14, 2014, 07:02:00 AM »
I use the Simmons Steelmaster with good results.  It comes with a file, two ceramic sticks and a jig to maintain angle. I can't remember how much I paid but pretty sure it wasn't near $100.

Offline Butch Speer

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Re: Sharpening Concave heads..
« Reply #8 on: September 14, 2014, 11:35:00 AM »
I use a 6in. mill bastard file. The kind without any teeth on the sides (you can get these from The Nocking Point). No teeth on the sides allows it to go around the curve easier. I've sharpened Tree Sharks and Safari for myself and Land Sharks for Mudd. Not much different than sharpening any other head with a file. Strop on a steel, leather or ceramic if you like. Gets them razor sharp & runs about $10 plus shipping.
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Offline Hoyt

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Re: Sharpening Concave heads..
« Reply #9 on: September 14, 2014, 01:53:00 PM »
I clamp them in the Arrow Head Guide then start with double cut file to cut down on some strokes and get the angle I want. Then readjust Guide and use a short, 2 sided, oval shaped, Jewel type stick. Fine on both sides I think. Then finish with light strokes with piece of broken ceramic I've got glued to an antler tip. Shaving sharp.

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Re: Sharpening Concave heads..
« Reply #10 on: September 14, 2014, 10:46:00 PM »


Less than ten bucks.
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Offline DanielB89

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Re: Sharpening Concave heads..
« Reply #11 on: September 15, 2014, 12:23:00 AM »
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Less than ten bucks.
Charlie,
I just ordered one.  Is there anything else I should use with it?

do you happen to have  a video of you sharpening yours?


thank you for all the replies fellas!
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Re: Sharpening Concave heads..
« Reply #12 on: September 15, 2014, 08:38:00 AM »
I have two of the Rada and I can never get a razors edge on them.  I have followed all the instructions and still only a semi-sharp edge at best.
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Offline DanielB89

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Re: Sharpening Concave heads..
« Reply #13 on: September 15, 2014, 09:01:00 AM »
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I have two of the Rada and I can never get a razors edge on them.  I have followed all the instructions and still only a semi-sharp edge at best.
Dave,
I am hoping thats not my case.  

Have you tried finishing up with some type of ceramic or something like that?
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Offline Alexander Traditional

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Re: Sharpening Concave heads..
« Reply #14 on: September 15, 2014, 09:05:00 AM »
I have a Steel Master and I have modified my Lansky. I think with the carbide draw through type sharpeners you have to use light strokes. If you put too much pressure on them it will ruin the edge.

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Re: Sharpening Concave heads..
« Reply #15 on: September 15, 2014, 09:11:00 AM »
I use the Rada on my Simmons heads...super quick and shaving sharp.  Its not the longest lasting edge - but I only need it to last for one pass through.   Then I can sharpen it again if I need to.  I've started using it on my knives and Zwickeys as well.
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Re: Sharpening Concave heads..
« Reply #16 on: September 15, 2014, 09:35:00 AM »
I use very light pressure and I also angle the head - I still cannot get a razor's edge.  I have used the archer's edge in the past and was able to get a sufficient edge with it - much better than with the RADA wheels - although I prefer a more polished edge then you can get with pull through sharpeners.
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Re: Sharpening Concave heads..
« Reply #17 on: September 15, 2014, 09:58:00 AM »
I think you're supposed to keep the head or knife straight up and down Dave when you draw it through.

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Re: Sharpening Concave heads..
« Reply #18 on: September 15, 2014, 10:09:00 AM »
I use the Rada on my Simmons heads...super quick and shaving sharp.  Its not the longest lasting edge - but I only need it to last for one pass through.   Then I can sharpen it again if I need to.  I've started using it on my knives and Zwickeys as well.
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Offline Jake Scott

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Re: Sharpening Concave heads..
« Reply #19 on: September 15, 2014, 11:49:00 AM »
Try this with the wheelie.  Once you get the heads reasonably sharp, push them through from the front, angles upwards (opposite angle than pulling them through).  This is with very light pressure.  That is a tip I got from ChuckC, it works.  I have used the wheelie on a bunch of simmons heads and it is quick and easy, though I have switched to Chris Spikes method.  I know you don't want to buy more stuff, but the jewelstick and edge guide are for and away the best method, in my opinion.  I have also used it to sharpen all my knives as well.  Good luck, and let us know of you need more help.

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