Originally posted by AkDan: which did you prefer the rosin or the ring? I've got a bunch of comb to melt down here soon. Just getting ready to do the honey harvest.
Originally posted by Wandering Archer: Not to rain on your parade, but do you know what is in the toilet ring? Some years ago I contacted a ring maker and was told they are no longer made of beeswax, but I couldn't get the ingredient list. Since then I've never considered them as a material source for anything, as I don't like using something that could be harmful to my string, skin, leather, etc.
Originally posted by Sockrsblur: This is interesting. I bought some string makers wax from 3R and was disappointed in how hard it was. I wanted soft and tacky. Maybe this is another project lol
Originally posted by Rob DiStefano: for me, tacky string wax is to be avoided like the plague. i want a hard wax that can be friction melted into the string fibers that will both lubricate and not pick up dirt. that wax is bug wax - an organic distillate of natural compounds. it's all good, do whatever works best for ya. :cool:
Originally posted by Valkyrie: QuoteOriginally posted by Wandering Archer: Not to rain on your parade, but do you know what is in the toilet ring? Some years ago I contacted a ring maker and was told they are no longer made of beeswax, but I couldn't get the ingredient list. Since then I've never considered them as a material source for anything, as I don't like using something that could be harmful to my string, skin, leather, etc. I am fairly certain that commercial string waxes are composed of various petro distillates, like paraffin, for instance. And while beeswax may be produced naturally, it remains a compound made of primarily hydrocarbons mixed with impurities introduced by the insect's habits and environment. The toilet ring wax lends a softening and sticky property to the harder beeswax which , for me and many others, is desirable. Unless one is using sinew or hide or some other material that is flesh based, I doubt any type of wax, toilet ring or other, would be damaging to the synthetic strings we use which are various types of polymers anyway. [/b]
Originally posted by Wandering Archer: QuoteOriginally posted by Valkyrie: QuoteOriginally posted by Wandering Archer: Not to rain on your parade, but do you know what is in the toilet ring? Some years ago I contacted a ring maker and was told they are no longer made of beeswax, but I couldn't get the ingredient list. Since then I've never considered them as a material source for anything, as I don't like using something that could be harmful to my string, skin, leather, etc. I am fairly certain that commercial string waxes are composed of various petro distillates, like paraffin, for instance. And while beeswax may be produced naturally, it remains a compound made of primarily hydrocarbons mixed with impurities introduced by the insect's habits and environment. The toilet ring wax lends a softening and sticky property to the harder beeswax which , for me and many others, is desirable. Unless one is using sinew or hide or some other material that is flesh based, I doubt any type of wax, toilet ring or other, would be damaging to the synthetic strings we use which are various types of polymers anyway. [/b]well, sounds like you know a little more about this stuff than I do. That's why I don't make my own. I don't know enough about the chemistry of the string material to know what may or may not react negatively to it.Interesting that you mixed the toilet ring with the beeswax though. Most people that I've heard of using toilet rings, use the toilet rings as a wax substitute.If you had beeswax, why didn't you just use some oils to soften the beeswax? [/b]
...the wax ring seems to be a tired and true recipe. Straight wax R&I g is just too soft and gooey for my likes and beeswax is too hard. The combination I mixed is a nice pliable wax that rubs in well, sticks when being applied and is cheap in quantity.