how do you get your broadheads "true"?

[DanielB89]

I am wondering how do you fellas get your glue on heads true on a broadhead adapter?  

Is the glue that big jim sells safe for this?  (Quick stick hot melt glue)

[threeunder]

I use one of the Dixon broadhead aligners.

[ChuckC]

I spin all mine and just keep messing till they spin true.  I notice that often, if they are not well seated (even though I thought they were) they will not spin true.

Spinning can be done on a flat hard surface or by using a spinner device.  Note. .  if you have sharpened the head, make certain that the sharpening job did not offset the point enough to make it LOOK like it is untrue.

ChuckC

[reddogge]

I use this homemade alignment jig. I heat the point lightly and slowly rotate it against the board watching the point against the board and play with it until it spins true.

   
   

[beaunaro]

One thing I will add that I didn't know, but recently learned on another thread is that:

A broadhead adapter isn't properly seated unless it goes in all the way flush. This is due to air being trapped up front. Sometimes it takes a lot of push, the right amount of melted glue,and some rotation to get them seated.

Since learning that, I've got a few to re-do.

Also, I had some two blade, single bevel Grizzlys that looked as though they had some wobble. (I use a horizontal arrow roller tool with the tip of the head up against a solid point like a label on a jar or such, to see if the tip wobbles compared to the stationary object.)

I could not get all of the wobble out of some of my heads no matter how much re-glueing and rotation I did. It wasn't a lot, but not perfect.

Finally, in frustration, I took those heads out and shot them. After several shots they flew just as well as the ones without any wobble, so I figured that was the ultimate test.

[Pat B]

I mount the broadhead and spin it on my thumbnail. If it wobbles I twist it a bit and try again, and again if necessary until I feel no wobble.
 I use the gold stick stuff from 3ivers or some home made stuff someone sent me in a trade.

[Fletcher]

I use this gizmo, about the same as Reddogge above.
 

Yes, the Quick Stick is great for this.

[Bladepeek]

I've thought of cutting a couple shallow grooves in the ridges of the adapter to allow glue and air to escape similar to the grooved dowels used for doweled glue joints.

I may just try that next time I glue some up.

[KentuckyTJ]

I screw the new adapter in the arrow, then I put the broadhead in a holder and pretty forcefully twist the adapter into the head (no glue) just to make sure they are seated as well as they can be.

I then put broadhead on my finger if not too sharp pointed and spin the shaft to feel any whobble. If it doesn't spin true, I twist it a 1/16" and spin again. Repeat until I find the most true spin. Once I find the spot I take a marker and draw a straight line on the shaft and the broadhead where they will line up later when I add glue.

I then take a cuetip and acetone and wipe the inside of the broadhead and the adapter down.

Then I heat and melt glue on the adapter. Then I quickly set the head onto adapter and spin it down fairly hard until I get the lines matched up.

At that point most are tuned, but if not I spin on a nail board like Fletchers above. Finding the low spin of the tip of the head and then push down on the low spot of the tip to move the tip up to center. Then re-spin on nail board and spin the shaft on my finger tip for final approval. (Yeah I know, you motherly types out there are grim-messing right now but I've been doing that for years without incident so its hard to teach old dogs new tricks. I still don't wear a helmet if I ride a bike either.)         :eek:        

A slow setting melt-able glue is key in this process and I get mine from the grizzly broadhead site.

       http://grizzlybroadheads.com/adapters.html

[Diamond Paul]

I never had any luck with glue-ons, myself, so I switched to the Woodsman Elites, which have always spun out of the box.  I also true the arrow ends and inserts with the G2 tool.  However, I had a friend that trued his glue-ons up with an arrow straightener, which has rollers and a dial indicator to detect run-out.  He just rolled them till the indicator moved, then pressed down with handle that straightens the arrow till he had zero run out.  His broadheads spun like tops, too.  Don't know what those devices cost, though.

[bigbadjon]

Arrow straighteners with the runout indicater are pretty spendy... generally over $100. However its a small price if you shoot aluminums exclusively. I would recommend Pine Ridge's arrow spinner to all archers. It works well and only costs about $30.

[Diamond Paul]

Does Dixson still make the broadhead aligner?  I don't see it on any of the trad websites anymore.  Been wanting to put that on my Christmas wish list if I can find one.

[DanielB89]

Paul, this is what you're looking for.

 https://www.simmonssharks.com/accessories/spin-box-broadhead-aligner

I just ordered one today.

[Fattony77]

Terry from the Nocking Point shared a tip with me on this subject fairly recently...

While the glue is still warm, (and with the adapter screwed into the arrow) mount the broadhead, drop the arrow straight down on the tip. Preferably onto something solid, like a piece of wood or stone. Gravity and the weight of the arrow seats the adapter in the broadhead evenly.

I've tried it a couple of times and it seems to be working well.

Hope that helps.

[JimB]

http://www.singlebevelbroadheads.com/Mounting_Aligning_the_Tuffhead.html

[BigJim]

The quick stick hot melt we sell works excellent on all types of arrow materials, carbon, wood, aluminum and steel..oh yeah, brass too.

thanks, bigjim

[DanielB89]

Originally posted by BigJim:
The quick stick hot melt we sell works excellent on all types of arrow materials, carbon, wood, aluminum and steel..oh yeah, brass too.

thanks, bigjim

Jim, the only problem that i was having is how fast the glue dries.  It is a product that I use for everything, but man does it dry quick!

[J-dog]

Yeah got a spin box ordered -- after reading this I had plans on a new project making one but then saw the simmons post -- worth it !