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Author Topic: OK, What the heck is a G2 (or 3, or 4)  (Read 498 times)

Offline woodchucker

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Re: OK, What the heck is a G2 (or 3, or 4)
« Reply #20 on: November 12, 2014, 08:38:00 PM »
This has gotten WAY out of hand!!! But, I honestly have to throw my hat in the ring...

For those of us "imbusles" who "ridicule the scoring system".....

Back in the day... When the B&C and P&Y were founded. Deer (and other game) were what Mother Nature, Created. Today, with QDM,Ranches,Farms, and other management, Deer are farmed,just like livestock! Thank your "Horn Porn" TV shows and DVDs for that... People can't easily shoot naturaly created "Big Bucks" so... They attempt to grow them. Going to a QDM managed ranch, sitting in a stand,watching a field full of huge racked Bucks, trying to decide which one to shoot, is nothing more than going shopping, as far as some of us are concerned. So, if we seem to come off as snobs... I oppologize. When your sitting in a stand,on an unmanaged piece of property, and the HUGEST Buck you have ever seen, walks infront of you and gives you a shot, AND YOU MAKE IT!!! Now THAT, is truely the Buck of a lifetime!!!!!

Just one Old Fart's oppinion.....
I only shoot WOOD arrows... My kid makes them, fast as I can break them!

There is a fine line between Hunting, & Sitting there looking Stupid...

May The Great Spirit Guide Your Arrows..... Happy Hunting!!!

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Re: OK, What the heck is a G2 (or 3, or 4)
« Reply #21 on: November 13, 2014, 07:04:00 AM »
Money can corrupt just about anything
Bragging may not bring happiness,
but no man having caught a large fish,goes home through the alley.

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Re: OK, What the heck is a G2 (or 3, or 4)
« Reply #22 on: November 13, 2014, 08:43:00 AM »
I am not arguing with you, Chuck, but why worry about what others consider a trophy?  People that have large QDMA farms aren't shooting the 2 1/2-3 1/2 deer that most of us would be ecstatic about.  They are shooting older deer, that still are a challenge.  Different opportunities in different areas of the country, and nothing that can be done about that.  At the end of the day, it is still just a method of describing the antlers. It isn't as if there were only smaller bucks before QDMA came along.

If you haven't seen the website, this link shows the 20 top all time boone and crockett whitetail deer, and the vast majority of them were taken before TV "horn porn" was around.  Should someone be ridiculed for describing the racks of these deer?  That, to me, would be the thing that is ridiculous.

 http://www.petersenshunting.com/deer/20-biggest-typical-whitetail-bucks-of-all-time/

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Re: OK, What the heck is a G2 (or 3, or 4)
« Reply #23 on: November 13, 2014, 09:27:00 AM »
The series of measurements consists of 8 different variables that are named “A” through “H.” Only "D" through "H" are included in the official score.

The G measurements are the length of the various typical antler points on each beam. G1 (or G-1) is the length of the first point, G2 the second, and so on and so on. The H1 (or H-1) is the circumference (or mass) and the first location where circumference measurements are taken, H2 is the second, and so on and so on.

The letters don't really mean anything other than a way to differentiate a specific measurement.  Letters are used to eliminate confusion (A – H instead of 1 – 8), because there are already enough numbers on a page when you start scoring a deer.

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Re: OK, What the heck is a G2 (or 3, or 4)
« Reply #24 on: November 13, 2014, 11:49:00 AM »
Good explanation Tooner.

I will have to admit I get a bit tired of the TV hunters referring to "G2's, 4's, etc.  Too much of this kind of reference seems to cheapen the hunt for some folks. I like to hear about "mature deer" and good shots made.

By the way, the record keepers collect a lot more information about the hunt and hunter than the deer on the required affidavit that accompanies the scoring form; Days hunted, deer seen, shots taken, hit locations, time to recovery, equipment, etc.  

I've been a PY measurer since 1979. Many state wildlife agencies are proud of the quality of their deer herds and after herd health, PY or BC entries are a descriptive measure. Of course the best agencies are most appreciative of the quality of their sportsmen and women.

Whether you describe "your" deer as a button, spike, forky, basket-rack, 8, 9, or other "point" buck you are just trying to put in words, when a picture isn't available, what your deer looks like. For those familiar with scoring systems the number adds to the description.

Tell one who has measured a lot how many points and the gross and net score and he will have a good mental image of your deer. A little more descriptive than "big-un" or "200 pounder".

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