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Author Topic: .340 spine arrows ??  (Read 2901 times)

Offline Stringpuller#1

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.340 spine arrows ??
« on: November 18, 2014, 01:19:00 PM »
Who is using 340's and how much weight do you have up front? my bare shaft tuning is showing stiff with a 75gr insert and 165 Simmons/170fieldpoints. I'm using Easton Axis Traditionals cut to 30" with 3, 4or 5 inch feathers. Thanks for your input, I'd really like to hunt with this bow one day when it's all tuned up nicely.
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Offline DanielB89

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Re: .340 spine arrows ??
« Reply #1 on: November 18, 2014, 01:27:00 PM »
what # bow are you shooting, and what brand bow?  The reason I ask is some are cut closer to center or even past center.  All of these play into factor here.
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Re: .340 spine arrows ??
« Reply #2 on: November 18, 2014, 02:09:00 PM »
Wes Wallace Mentor, 56lbs@28" His wesite says it's cut 3/16ths past center with a 7 1/2" brace height. Right now I have the brace set at about 7 and 3/4"
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Offline stickem1

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Re: .340 spine arrows ??
« Reply #3 on: November 18, 2014, 02:10:00 PM »
I shoot Beman ICS hunter 340s out of my Fedora 560.
61@30
31 1/2" 100g insert, 200 broadhead, 3-5" feathers
Right at 620 grains.

Offline ChuckC

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Re: .340 spine arrows ??
« Reply #4 on: November 18, 2014, 02:17:00 PM »
Sticken.  did you bare shaft them ?  I have a very similar set up  62@30 ( i pull to 30.5") RER LXR
using Beeman ICS Hunters 340's, full length, with 50 grain insert and 175 grain head.  They act as if weak to me.

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Re: .340 spine arrows ??
« Reply #5 on: November 18, 2014, 02:19:00 PM »
It should be stiff; my WW bows generally are on the lower side of the curve when it comes to spine, especially if you have a strap-on quiver on the bow.  That bow is probably going to need a .400 spine arrow that length.  Even a .500 spine might work if you are barely drawing 28" and if you cut them 29".
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Re: .340 spine arrows ??
« Reply #6 on: November 18, 2014, 02:50:00 PM »
I shoot Axis Traditional 340's cut to 30 1/2 with roughly 275 grain tip/insert/adapter combo. I'm using a 62@29 recurve. Did not bareshaft, but paper tuned at 5 steps and appear to fly great! Used this setup to kill 2 whitetails this year.

Based on my experience/results I'd agree that your arrows are slightly stiff. Maybe you could slap a 225 grain tuffhead on there or a similar heavier broadhead.

Offline Stringpuller#1

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Re: .340 spine arrows ??
« Reply #7 on: November 18, 2014, 03:04:00 PM »
I'd like to avoid having to chop my arrows, I'd like to bump up my point weight but I don't know how much to bump too. I've spent way too much on these arrows to just scrap them all and buy all new 400 spines. I'm not so far off the mark that hopefully a point increase will fix it. Now I'll have 4 brand new Simmons 165's to get rid of. I should probably just order the field points and go from there, so I won't waste money and too heavy or too light of broadheads
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Re: .340 spine arrows ??
« Reply #8 on: November 18, 2014, 03:45:00 PM »
Try some 100 grain inserts and a 200 grain head on them, or even a 250.  I'm sure you can get them to tune, though they might be heavier than you like.  I don't like fence post arrows, myself, and like to stay at 10gpp or a bit less.
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Re: .340 spine arrows ??
« Reply #9 on: November 18, 2014, 04:28:00 PM »
What is a fence post arrow, I've never heard that before ?
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Offline JDunlap

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Re: .340 spine arrows ??
« Reply #10 on: November 18, 2014, 05:05:00 PM »
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Originally posted by ChuckC:
Sticken.  did you bare shaft them ?  I have a very similar set up  62@30 ( i pull to 30.5") RER LXR
using Beeman ICS Hunters 340's, full length, with 50 grain insert and 175 grain head.  They act as if weak to me.

ChuckC
Chuck, I have an XR and LXR and very similar draw and pounds w/ total of 220-225 grains up front. I had to go to 7595 Gold Tips to get them to bare shaft. I am surprised stringpuller's 340's are showing stiff.
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Re: .340 spine arrows ??
« Reply #11 on: November 18, 2014, 05:35:00 PM »
What is your actual draw length and the string type including the number of stramds?

Are you using wraps? If so, then what do they way?
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Re: .340 spine arrows ??
« Reply #12 on: November 18, 2014, 05:43:00 PM »
I shoot 340s full length with 425 up front. My bow is 60@28 shoots very well. I think by cutting them your making them to stiff for your bow. I would try full length 340 with more upfront weight. With your bow shooting 56lbs you might have to go with 400s. Good Luck

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Re: .340 spine arrows ??
« Reply #13 on: November 18, 2014, 05:53:00 PM »
mfx classic 340, 29.75", 75 grain insert, 175 grain tip. Silvertip recurve, ff string, approximately 62# @29", elevated rest.

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Re: .340 spine arrows ??
« Reply #14 on: November 18, 2014, 06:10:00 PM »
I am shooting Axis 340s 29.75 200 up front out of a 57@28 pronghorn ferret drawn to 28
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Re: .340 spine arrows ??
« Reply #15 on: November 18, 2014, 06:29:00 PM »
JD.  Mine fly fine with feathers, but as I said, they act weak bare shafted as full length unless I back off to only around, say, 175 total grains up front or a little less even.

I thought I was weird but if you get that too then I am not weird, ( or not weird alone !).

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Re: .340 spine arrows ??
« Reply #16 on: November 18, 2014, 06:56:00 PM »
I shoot GT 75/95 black arrows, full length, with a 100grn insert and 300grn heads.  I use 2 x 5" parabolic fletching out of the bow listed below.  I get great flight from this setup.
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Re: .340 spine arrows ??
« Reply #17 on: November 18, 2014, 07:06:00 PM »
"Fence post arrows;"  as in, heavy as a fence post.
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Offline Stringpuller#1

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Re: .340 spine arrows ??
« Reply #18 on: November 18, 2014, 07:22:00 PM »
It seems I need to up my point weight. Where would a good starting point be, 200? 250?
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Re: .340 spine arrows ??
« Reply #19 on: November 18, 2014, 08:22:00 PM »
I am shooting a 60 pound at 29 recurve, and had to go up to 300 spine shafts cut at 30 1/2 inches with 225 grainsup front. The bow is cut to center and my drawl is right at 29 inches. Look at the back third of your arrow behind the markings and if you're getting contact there, yourArrow is too weak. I noticed this on the gold tip woodgrain shaftseven shooting the 300 spine at full links and had to cut them down accordingly. The 340 gold tip 7595's were very terrible at this even cut down to 29 inches. Once I got the shaft cut downto the proper length on the .300's I get zero contact great bareshaft and great Broadhead flight. Plus they hit like a hammer. I know people try to say you're shooting too stiff a spine in general shooting a trad bow and anything stiffer than a 400 shaft, but the reality is cut past center equals much stiffer arrow need

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