Short bows? really? don't you want more?

[frank bullitt]

I thought longbows were part of the challenge?

They are for me.

[WESTBROOK]

Rat, the 52-56" Shrews are the Classic Hunters and the 58-62" are the Super Shrews....they are 2 different bow designs.

Back to what Big Jim said...you stretch that TC out to the 64" bow you want...tweak it to make it perform well and walaa you got a Buffalo.

A  long bow design dont make a good short bow and visa/versa...its that simple.

[Mike Mecredy]

When it comes to longbow design and speed, the key is the amount of mass in the  working limb.  If you ever notice the short longbows also have shorter risers, and the longer ones have longer risers.  It's important to keep a ratio of riser length:working limb at the optimum (I know what it is too, +/- a bit, of course) But if you go too long with the limbs, putting the tips past that ratio, you'll have negative returns and it'll slow things down, all the while feeling very smooth while drawing, and that's totally fine if that's what you like but that can also add some hand shock.  This applies to any longbow design D/R, Hill styled, etc.

[riverrat 2]

WESTBROOK how are ya? I was up in Manton this past June on my way home from Smallmouth fishing in Grand Traverse Bay Eric,and stopped at that little mom&pop restaurant there Northwoods maybe? Anyhow..That makes sure your full when you leave,and don't charge enough for what you get there. Awesome little place to eat at. OK..Here's what I'd like...A 64-66" Super Shrew. (cause that design supports a longer length) or a TC re-designed to work out that design for a longer length. Cause if the Shrew can...Others can. I put a 454 in a Chevette. It worked. Well. You nailed it! re-designed a bit to support a longer length,but retain the original lines for the bow as close as possible just like LaClair did between them Shrews. I've had both those Shrews remember. And I couldn't tell any difference in the way they looked,and the grips at all. I just liked the longer one. That 62" Banshee with Big Jims craftsmanship and killer grip would be the best damn Thunderchild in the world. That's what I think. From shooting both,at the same time,laying them right beside each other,measuring the dimensions tween them,I know what I'm saying bud. I also know I won't get what I want. And that sucks. Cause they would be awesome. I'm all done with this whole topic. If I had the ability to build a Shrew or Thunderchild in a 64-66" bow. I'd be doing it right now. No hard feelings here. Take care ya'all.   rat'

[Moots]

Rat,

Great post!  I have also spent too much buying and selling shorter bows.  The only two bows on my wish list are 68 and 70".

[sticksnstones]

"Thom, I love this 68" NM Classic"

"Thom, I loved you NM Classic so much I bought a Baraga."

Mind you I love shooting your Baraga, but I knew this day would come  
Thom

[Ron LaClair]

A while back I designed what I called the /shrew Model-T. It was a longer riser, longer length, 62,64, and 66"

     

The left handed one is mine and I still have it

   

[riverrat 2]

THOM! how ya' been? Long time,no see pal. Ready for leagues to start? I am. AHHH! I was all done posting on this topic Thom and you dragged me back in. For 1 more. Should have PM'ed you maybe. I like them Mists Thom. They are fun to shoot. I just am a R/D Longbow guy at heart. I've tried a lot of stuff T you know it's true. It seems that the whole point I am trying to get across is getting lost in translation at times it feels like. So in simple terms,one sentence to the core objective which unfortunately is a mute point it seems.

"A radical R/D longbow that is a 64-66" length"

I have my favorite designs which I feel the talented bowyers making them could build one that would stand tall. But I guess it can't be done T.
Stringfollows are fun Thom. But they just don't have the hot-rod feel of an R/D friend. That's that. See you in a few weeks Thom. I'm dialed in pretty good. Got some new arrows made up. Got to try and keep Mr. Denny at bay.       rat'

[Ron LaClair]

In fact I hunted with it at camp this year. It's 64" long

Personally I don't have a problem with any bow short or long I love em all.

   

Here's one that shows the limb a little better

   

[riverrat 2]

You guys still building those "T's" Ron?

[Ron LaClair]

Haven't been for awhile but probably could start again. The 56" Classic is our most popular model

[overbo]

Correct me if I'm wrong but the bows Rat mentions are a type of flatbow design? Having owned and shot these hybrid or flatbows, I can understand the frustration. Maybe the issue is more so the design, than length? Maybe getting away from the heavily preloaded designs of these short longbows and look at a different limb design LB all together. Have you tried a mild reflex design w/ trapped limbs? I'm a recurve guy but have a 62'' Frederick Baron that's very nice to shoot, even for this recuve guy.

[Moots]

Hey Overbo,

Those Frederick longbows are sweet.  I sold mine a couple of years ago and have regretted it.  I think mine was a little longer, but don't recall for sure.

[Burnsie]

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[beaunaro]

I don't think there is any shortage of long bows out there....is there?

If you want long....buy long.

Some guys just like short, so bowyers build them.

My 56" longbows and recurves shoot great!

[riverrat 2]

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quote:Originally posted by riverrat 2:
     

[riverrat 2]

[riverrat 2]

I love longbows bro. I love LONG R/D longbows. I feel there are some nice ones out there that would be great to own if they were LONGER. See.
It's not a silly thread. What a joke! I put the "dead horse thing" up because the whole point seems lost. But now I know they can't be made kirk. So...  

[twigflicker]

Just a thought... Have you looked at Herb Meland's Pronghorns... I think he makes a 66" one piece....

Jonathan

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