Almost hate to start with name calling for fear many will get left out. I appreciate all those in the Gang who are clearly committed to helping others. I've learned so much from yall over the years. Read where Moebow stated that a deep hook didn't necessarily mean how far up your finger the string was placed but that once there the finger tips should remain pointed back (at least that's the way I read it and it helped tremendously). Mcdave shared what he had learned about bringing the string to your face and not going to get it. Where can I stop we have a clock form, those that seem to always be helpful concerning spine, target panic, hunting how to's ect. Thanks for all yalls help and Merry Christmas.