Tying Nocking Points

[Interseptor]

This year I tried tying the nocking point on my bow string instead of using the brass clamps.  Well I have forgotten and can't find the video guide that I used.  Can't remember if the video came from this site, one of the sponsors, or from another source.  Can anybody make some suggestions as to what video to watch?

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[Bobtulowiecki]

I used the link below with spider wire fishing line and then used "head cement" that you would use fly tying to secure it.  Came out pretty well.  The link in the post above is cool too- uses a nail knot.  Will have to try that on my next string

 

[Ron Vought]

Using Dacron...Just tie a few over hand knots 6-8 total. When you get finished tying the knots, cut the Dacron and you want to leave dacron as a tag end. Now take a lighter and light the ends one at a time (they will burn) and then quickly push them into the knot. This will melt the Dacron tag ends into the knot itself and secure the thread from coming undone and moving. Works great for thread nocks.

Ron

[katman]

I like the nail knot but use a 1" piece of stirring straw instead of pencil.

[David Mitchell]

Originally posted by Ron Vought:
Using Dacron...Just tie a few over hand knots 6-8 total. When you get finished tying the knots, cut the Dacron and you want to leave dacron as a tag end. Now take a lighter and light the ends one at a time (they will burn) and then quickly push them into the knot. This will melt the Dacron tag ends into the knot itself and secure the thread from coming undone and moving. Works great for thread nocks.

Ron

Just the way I do it--nothing could be simpler.

[McDave]

 .  I used to use my own, which you can see under "How to, resources" if you want, but I like this one even better, and now use it for all my tied on nocks.

[Ryan Sanpei]

Thanks Dave!

I have gone into a little more detail in terms adjustable string nocks. Here's the link.
   http://rysanpei.blogspot.com/2014/11/the-cool-part-about-hunting-equipment.html  

I'm also currently experimenting with .032 Powergrip instead of Halo. Below is powergrip serving with powergrip string nocks. The material isn't as "slick" but doesn't flatten like Halo. So far, I'm really liking the results as a string nock.

   

[bowfanatik]

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[KentuckyTJ]

I do the Whip tie pencil method as bowfanatik posted. Works great and no lopsided knots on one side of it.

[Rob DiStefano]

Originally posted by Ron Vought:
Using Dacron...Just tie a few over hand knots 6-8 total. When you get finished tying the knots, cut the Dacron and you want to leave dacron as a tag end. Now take a lighter and light the ends one at a time (they will burn) and then quickly push them into the knot. This will melt the Dacron tag ends into the knot itself and secure the thread from coming undone and moving. Works great for thread nocks.

Ron

this is the easiest, fastest, simplest and quite durable way to go.  there sure are other methods, most more complicated, but none can beat this for all the reasons just described.  this method will also allow the tied nock point to be twisted up and down the serving for fine tuning if need be.  

the only thing i do further is once the location is satisfied, i wick in some water thin quality cya to lock it in.

[olddogrib]

A very simple one is just to double the piece you are using and lay it against the string leaving a longer tag end where you can grab it.  Start wrapping the shorter end tightly around string and serving until you get the nock size you want.  Feed the end through the loop and hold while you pull the tag end tight which will secure it.  Trim and melt both ends if you like, but I've never had one loosen. I doubt this one is adjustable, but I tune with brass...when I tie one on I just want it to stay put.

[katman]

Rob I did it tying overhand knots for years before seeing Ryan's video, now I can tie the nail knot just about as quick, it is much cleaner looking, and twists on serving for adjustment. Key is to use larger diameter for nock than serving. Getting even and correct tension with multiple knots was hard for me, some came out ok some not so good.  CYA for me too but probably not necessary.

Whip tie looks like a nail knot to me.

[Rob DiStefano]

i *always* used to whip servings and you can find my pictorial on that in the how-to resources forum.  but as of at least a few years ago, that method is just passé compared to the overhand knot nocking point.

i still use dacron bowstring fiber for nock points. i cut off a piece about 12" long and use a piece of paper towel to remove much of the wax.

the way to tie overhand knots for a nocking point, and have a very even wrap, is to simply reverse each overhand tie and layer it.  the last overhand gets tripled, cut the two 1/8" tags, then flame, melt and press into the existing wraps.  it is even and clean looking and quite rounded.

[McDave]

The main thing I like about Ryan's method over the other methods I've seen, including my own, is that the tag ends of the knot come out in the middle of the knot rather than each end.  This means that neither your finger nor the arrow nock will be in contact with the tag ends.

Does it really matter if your finger or the arrow nock is in contact with the tag ends?  Probably in the greater scheme of things, it really doesn't matter very much.  But just like it pleases me to tie a bowline or a clove hitch correctly rather than just throw on a bunch of half hitches when I'm securing something with a rope, and just like I like a neat looking knot in my tie (even if I only put one on for funerals these days), I like my tied on nocks with the tag ends coming out the middle rather than each end.

[katman]

Thanks Rob.

Just viewed Ryan's video and see he is now using a type of constrictor knot, nice video as usual. Lots of ways to get er done.

[AkDan]

I use number 4 nylon for serving being I still have a pile of it around from my string making days.

One thing, leave the tags longer than you'd think. 1/2" isn't too long.

Reason...

You can melt them for the initial tuning process and not need glue.  Wet your fingers and mash it down into the over hands to lock the knot.  Once you get them where you want them after tuning, lock them down with duco/superglue   You'll likely wear the string before wear the nock.  By melting there is no knot to mess with.  I prefer the knot away from my nocks.  If you do get a booger, hit it with heat again before you super glue it.  Its really easy to get a super nice smooth nock doing it this way.

[Butch Speer]

Originally posted by Rob DiStefano:
i *always* used to whip servings and you can find my pictorial on that in the how-to resources forum.  but as of at least a few years ago, that method is just passé compared to the overhand knot nocking point.

i still use dacron bowstring fiber for nock points. i cut off a piece about 12" long and use a piece of paper towel to remove much of the wax.

the way to tie overhand knots for a nocking point, and have a very even wrap, is to simply reverse each overhand tie and layer it.  the last overhand gets tripled, cut the two 1/8" tags, then flame, melt and press into the existing wraps.  it is even and clean looking and quite rounded.

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[tracker12]

Nail Knot for me.  It's just a cleaner knot.

[Jakeemt]

here is how I make mine. Very simple and not fancy. Mine cannot be adjusted but, they are very stout. I made this video a few years ago