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Author Topic: Feather chopper and full length  (Read 604 times)

Offline acollins

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Feather chopper and full length
« on: January 10, 2015, 06:31:00 PM »
I am considering a feather chopper. My question is how many 4" or 5" feathers will I get out of a full length feather.

Offline Caughtandhobble

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Re: Feather chopper and full length
« Reply #1 on: January 10, 2015, 07:04:00 PM »
I usually get one 5" out of the feathers that I chop. The left overs are long enough to make flu flu fletching. I will guess that you could likely get two 4" fletchings on big feathers.

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Re: Feather chopper and full length
« Reply #2 on: January 10, 2015, 07:12:00 PM »
I think out of 5-700 feathers full length feathers of various colors from tru flight & bearpaw I've had, only a very small percentage of them would have made 2 decent 4" fletch.

For the most part if you ever found 8" of feather to deal with the tail end of the second feather will have a very narrow base.

I bought a chopper quite a few years ago with the thought of saving money. Basically thought I could buy full lengths for the price of one pre-cut feather. Then out of that full length get 2 fletch.
...basically 1/2 the price right?..... WRONG!..lol

Just doesn't work out.

I'm glad I have the chopper for custom shapes though.
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Re: Feather chopper and full length
« Reply #3 on: January 10, 2015, 07:26:00 PM »
Ok Zradix. That is hat I was wondering. I will just stick with ordering pre cut feathers. Thanks.

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Re: Feather chopper and full length
« Reply #4 on: January 10, 2015, 07:43:00 PM »
I use a feather burner and almost always can get 2 4 3/8 inch feathers out of one full length.  I've found the solid color feathers to be longer, but most of the time can get 2 out of a barred feather.  Amg and truflight.  The bases do get a little thin width wise on one feather, but still work for me.

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Re: Feather chopper and full length
« Reply #5 on: January 11, 2015, 12:35:00 AM »
The full length feathers these days are not as long as they used to be years ago.

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Re: Feather chopper and full length
« Reply #6 on: January 11, 2015, 11:54:00 AM »
If you cut a 5" fether, will there be enough to make a feather for a kid's arrow? Out toward the end, is the feather still stiff enough?
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Re: Feather chopper and full length
« Reply #7 on: January 11, 2015, 01:20:00 PM »
how long of kids feather?

you could get a 2" quite often.
any longer and your % of kids feathers will go down pretty quickly.
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Re: Feather chopper and full length
« Reply #8 on: January 11, 2015, 02:30:00 PM »
Having a 4" AND a 3" chopper comes in handy when you run into those shorties...which is much too common these days.
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Re: Feather chopper and full length
« Reply #9 on: January 12, 2015, 12:13:00 PM »
x2 what Lon said.

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Re: Feather chopper and full length
« Reply #10 on: January 12, 2015, 12:27:00 PM »
As JRY points out, feathers aren't as long today as they were just a few years ago.  Now, they tend to be 7-10 inches.  Several years ago they were 10-12 inches and longer.  Wild birds still yield feathers that long, of course, but domestic birds are grown so fast and butchered at such a young age that they no longer develop longer wing feathers.  Rather sad, I think.

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Re: Feather chopper and full length
« Reply #11 on: January 12, 2015, 12:41:00 PM »
I agree with Orion.
The feathers are also "weaker".
They just don't have time to grow a nice firm strong feather.
Heck, I'm worried in a few years they might breed em to grow so fast they won't have time for feathers at all. I'm sure Butterball would like to not need to pluck em...lol

I'd say the lengths he states accurately reflects the length of good wide base on the feather. The feather itself is often longer with maybe around 1.5"-2.5" of additional length with questionable/worrisome base width.
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Re: Feather chopper and full length
« Reply #12 on: January 12, 2015, 06:38:00 PM »
I usually get one good 5 inch and the leftover I use for splicing or 3 inch feathers for the youth arrows.

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Re: Feather chopper and full length
« Reply #13 on: January 12, 2015, 08:25:00 PM »
One good 5" and most times a decent drop that is good enough for a stumper arrow.

Full length feathers used to be longer, especially the white ones. I used to get two 5" from a white feather. I've noticed a definite reduction in length over the last 25 years. I guess more protien goes for the breast meat and less for feathers.
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Re: Feather chopper and full length
« Reply #14 on: January 12, 2015, 11:19:00 PM »
Thanks for all the info. Greatly appreciated.

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Re: Feather chopper and full length
« Reply #15 on: January 12, 2015, 11:45:00 PM »
I like the 4" shield cut chopper. I can get 2 fletchings from most feathers, and since it is a tall fletch, that's plenty to stabilize flight, especially when carefully tuning carbon arrows, extra fletch just hurts speed.
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Re: Feather chopper and full length
« Reply #16 on: January 13, 2015, 08:31:00 AM »
A few years ago (5?) Tru Flight changed their standard for a full length feather.  I do not remember the details but the end effect was a smaller percentage of full length feathers will yield 2 chopped 4" than in the past.  The good news is the price of full length feathers also went down.
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Re: Feather chopper and full length
« Reply #17 on: January 13, 2015, 09:35:00 AM »
For consistency, one fletch from a full length feather. The remainder can be used for kids arrows.
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Re: Feather chopper and full length
« Reply #18 on: January 13, 2015, 12:27:00 PM »
I use a young feather burner I burn mine high and 5 1/4 - 5 1/2 inches I like big feathers only pne per feather kids fletch from some.
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Re: Feather chopper and full length
« Reply #19 on: January 13, 2015, 12:45:00 PM »
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Originally posted by Red Beastmaster:
One good 5" and most times a decent drop that is good enough for a stumper arrow.

Full length feathers used to be longer, especially the white ones. I used to get two 5" from a white feather. I've noticed a definite reduction in length over the last 25 years. I guess more protien goes for the breast meat and less for feathers.
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