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postman
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Left Bevel Broadhead on Right wing arrow
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January 20, 2015, 11:53:00 AM »
Just for the fun of it I put a left single bevel broadhead on a right wing feather arrow and it flew exactly like my other arrow with left wing and left single bevel broadhead. Even had the same penetration. So does it really matter if they are matched.
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Joeabowhunter
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Re: Left Bevel Broadhead on Right wing arrow
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January 20, 2015, 12:05:00 PM »
It isn't an arrow flight issue but more that you're not taking full advantage of the single bevels twisting motion as it cuts. I'm sure it'll work but just not getting the full benefits of the design.
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TOEJAMMER
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Re: Left Bevel Broadhead on Right wing arrow
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January 20, 2015, 12:19:00 PM »
For many years we used Grizzly broadheads made by Harry Elburg which only came in right wing bevel on left wing fletched arrows. They always seemed to get the job done on deer, bear and elk. What others say regarding penetration etc. would seem to make sense but we never had problems with flight or penetration.
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ChuckC
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Re: Left Bevel Broadhead on Right wing arrow
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January 20, 2015, 01:16:00 PM »
O M G no way !
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Pine
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Re: Left Bevel Broadhead on Right wing arrow
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January 20, 2015, 02:29:00 PM »
Ah.... The debate still goes on . Well for me I shoots what flies the most accurate . If you poke a hole through the right spot with a sharp blade, matters not how wide , the twist , or how heavy .
Use what you feel confident with .
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sticksnstones
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Re: Left Bevel Broadhead on Right wing arrow
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January 20, 2015, 02:44:00 PM »
So you have a broadhead designed to breach bone when spinning counterclockwise, and you want to mount that to an arrow that will spin clockwise.
I'm with Chuck.
Thom
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Hud
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Re: Left Bevel Broadhead on Right wing arrow
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January 20, 2015, 03:40:00 PM »
I have never experienced a problem, either, I think it is negligible. I remember reading that Howard Hill determined his arrow would spin, once every 12 ft. He determine the number of revolutions from his bow to a target, so he could cut a rope in a movie.
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jonsimoneau
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Re: Left Bevel Broadhead on Right wing arrow
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January 20, 2015, 03:42:00 PM »
You don't want to do that. When that arrow hits an animal it will begin spinning the exact opposite direction thereby retarding penetration.
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hvyhitter
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Re: Left Bevel Broadhead on Right wing arrow
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January 20, 2015, 04:06:00 PM »
not enough surface area on a sharpened edge to make any difference in soft tissue and negligible difference in bone........
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Tajue17
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Re: Left Bevel Broadhead on Right wing arrow
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January 20, 2015, 04:12:00 PM »
I have right bevel grizzly's with left wing,,, like stated above it may not have the S cut on impact but it will go thru same as a double bevel,, I do know that.
I personally want to see if it does have the S cut very curious if the bevel will take control, if I hit bone I'm curious about that too ,, I just need to get a shot when I have those arrows I will be taking lots of pics good or bad when it happens.
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mahantango
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Re: Left Bevel Broadhead on Right wing arrow
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January 20, 2015, 04:13:00 PM »
Never thought it mattered either. Shot the old right-bevel Grizzly for years with left-wing feathers. Never really thought about it. After reading the Ashby report I shot the above arrow into a block target and lo and behold the "wound channel" was a clockwise spiral. The direction of the bevel overcame the fletching rotation and reversad the spin. How much energy do you think this wasted that could have been better spent on penetration?
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Kingstaken
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Re: Left Bevel Broadhead on Right wing arrow
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January 20, 2015, 04:19:00 PM »
What hvyhitter said. So miniscule not worth worrying about it. Obviously you tested it out and your difference was nothing.
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dragonheart
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Re: Left Bevel Broadhead on Right wing arrow
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January 20, 2015, 04:27:00 PM »
The right fletching and left broadhead bevel will create a eccentrically opposite force reaction and the nock end of the arrow will strike the target within 12 feet...
Left fletching and right bevel will fly just fine...
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sticksnstones
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Re: Left Bevel Broadhead on Right wing arrow
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January 20, 2015, 04:42:00 PM »
All I need to know on this subject was written long ago.
Especially points 3, 7, and 8.
Thom
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mahantango
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Re: Left Bevel Broadhead on Right wing arrow
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January 20, 2015, 04:54:00 PM »
Of course they'll fly fine, but why fight physics when it comes to the penetration?
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Kopper1013
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Re: Left Bevel Broadhead on Right wing arrow
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January 20, 2015, 05:29:00 PM »
Ashby reports, read them!!!!! He dedicated his life to the single bevel head and it's advantages I wouldn't do it, you take away the advantages you gained by going to a single bevel head.
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njloco
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Re: Left Bevel Broadhead on Right wing arrow
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January 20, 2015, 06:42:00 PM »
Why not try mixing the feathers too? Just kidding !
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Tajue17
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Re: Left Bevel Broadhead on Right wing arrow
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January 21, 2015, 05:08:00 AM »
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Originally posted by njloco:
Why not try mixing the feathers too? Just kidding !
we've done that too with both RW & LW feathers and the arrow surprisingly flew fine,,, it was loud but hit right with the others. I've mixed feather cuts also, and shot with two and even one feather on a perfectly tuned arrow,.. you know traditional archery is a lot more simple than people make it out to be.
Ashby spent a lot of time studying bevels for hunting dangerous game as far as im concerned he had a lot of time on his hands and took it to the extreme,, people are still killing dangerous game to this day with every type of broad head you can buy.
I will admit there's some broadheads I seen in collections that I wouldn't shoot at a stump,,, my favorite head Left Bevel Abowyer's with my favorite fletch LW EV Howlers.
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njloco
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Re: Left Bevel Broadhead on Right wing arrow
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January 21, 2015, 06:55:00 AM »
I wonder if in yesteryears they paid attention to LW/RW. When I was much,much younger and started shooting archery,with no one around to show me,if the arrow shot a little left or right, I would just use Kentucky windage.
I think your correct, to a point, it has gotten more involved than it has to be.
With left and right bevel and feathers being available why would one intentionally not want to match the components up, unless something wasn't available at that moment ?
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tracker12
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Re: Left Bevel Broadhead on Right wing arrow
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January 21, 2015, 07:11:00 AM »
I'm with HVYhitter. Too much sweating the small stuff for me on a deer standing 20 and under with a arrow going 180 FPS.
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