Gold tip 1535's - .600 spine

[KentuckyTJ]

Well just a report on some new shafts I got from Big Jim.

     

     

My specs:
Four bows from 49lbs - 52lbs @ 28"
My draw length - 26"

I have a ton of .500 spines around as that was all I've ever messed with. They have always been a touch too stiff for some of my bows with my short draw length. I have too load up the fronts of them and leave them sticking out about 3-4" long. I have seen a few threads on the .600 spine shafts and have always wanted to give them a try as my .500 shaft are mostly cut at 29" and I've always wanted to shorten them up some. Well to do that of course you know I would need to go to a .600.

I picked them up at the po box this morning and glued in a insert and cut one to 29" as I knew they would bare shaft a little weak at that length with a 145 grain target point which is the weight I want to use for 3-D.  I first shot a 125 grain point and they showed stiff. Put the 145 on and showed a touch weak. Shaft nock in target about 1/2" left of point and a little high. I twisted up my two tied on nocking sets and shaved about a 1/4" of shaft off the nock end. Shot again and still a touch weak. Cut another 1/4" and perfect. Bar shaft flew like a dart. I could see no wiggle at all and the target told the same as they stuck perfectly straight in it from 3 to 18 yards.

I then cut another to the same length, fletched it up and flying like a dart. Shot them from another bow as well and perfect with a little adjustment to nock height.

Overall arrow weight is 410 grains. Thats 9.1 grains per pound and perfect for a 3-D bullet.

When hunting season rolls around these are going to be perfect as I will be able to cut a little shorter and add a heavier broad head.

If you are in the 40's to low 50's in bow poundage and haven't tried a .600 spine you really showed give them a go.

Winter fun!
TJ

[TealCoin]

Just what I needed to hear!

Almost placed an order with Big Jim for a dozen 3555s again... Think I'm going to take another look at the 1535s.

Looking good!

[the rifleman]

The 1535s work great in my set up---a Toelke Whip 50@28 with me drawing 25 so really around 44pounds or so.  I was able to tune mine full length with 200 grains up front.  I could never get 500s to work with my bow.  I know each bow is different--distance cut to center etc. and his does impact spine needs, but I agree that these will be a pleasant surprise to those shooting 40s and low 50s bows.  I foot mine with 2117s and they are almost bulletproof (I make a lot of bad shots and tend to hit things like rocks when I do).

[Coach Jones]

I like em.  Mine are cut 29 inches with 175 grain tip 49@28 and I draw 26.

[awbowman]

Agree.  I always shot 3555s loaded up.  Last year I tried some 1535s.  Wow, what a difference.

Much lighter in weight but still above 9gpp.  If I want heavier I shoot wood.  This is for the Toelke.

[Bldtrailer]

I found that my Bear's Paw 60  ff classic 45@28 (my draw 27 42lb)Trad 1535(always from                  project!!...hhhmmmmm

[jt85]

Tom, how do you think the Carbon Express 90 would do?

[bretto]

What was the full length of the new shaft Tom ?

I've gone to a couple of lighter weight bows for 3-D and if these are long enough they might be the ticket.

bretto

[ronp]

Hmm, maybe I should give some 1535s a try.  I've used 3555s in the past.

[Keb]

I shot the 15/35 with 50 grain insert and 145 head from my 41lbbow.

My arrows are 29" I draw 28 to the 41bs.

[KentuckyTJ]

Originally posted by jt85:
Tom, how do you think the Carbon Express 90 would do?

Jason, they are good I have a dozen of them. They are .588 spine though and these are .600 so they are a touch stiffer. I have my CE 90's cut at 29" with 175 grain heads flying like bullets bare shaft. I wanted a lighter weight 3-D arrow though that was shorter.

[KentuckyTJ]

Originally posted by bretto:
What was the full length of the new shaft Tom ?

I've gone to a couple of lighter weight bows for 3-D and if these are long enough they might be the ticket.

bretto

Brett, they are 30" long uncut

[bretto]

Thanks Tom.

[nineworlds9]

.600's should definitely work at those shorter DL's a few of you describe.  Less force acting for less time on the shaft so needs to be softer.  Just be sure that arrow is stiff enough to take advantage of all the stored energy.  I've had situations where I've had arrows impact accurately but flex too much in flight and all that flex is lost energy.  Gotta love them Goldtips for value, glad Big Jim can hook us up.

[Archer Dave]

I ended up buying a dozen of each 1535 and 3555 Trads from The Footed Shaft. Great guy to deal with and a sponsor on this site.

So far I have just fletched up the 1535's and they seem to be working out fine. I need to cut the 3555's down a bit and fletch them up to compare, but I already have some 3555 XT Hunters that shoot fine.

My bow seems to shoot either shaft well.

[thumper-tx]

My draw is 28" and from 45-50 lb and a 150gr field point or woodsman, they fly better than 35/55 shafts for me.

[awbowman]

Deleted

Originally posted by KentuckyTJ:
   

Originally posted by jt85:
Tom, how do you think the Carbon Express 90 would do?

Jason, they are good I have a dozen of them. They are .588 spine though and these are .600 so they are a touch stiffer. I have my CE 90's cut at 29" with 175 grain heads flying like bullets bare shaft. I wanted a lighter weight 3-D arrow though that was shorter. [/b]

TJ, have you put the GT's on a spine tester? I spine test evewry shaft I shoot (I shoot GT 55/75's) and have yet to find a single shaft that is not stiffer than the .400 spine mine are supposed to be.

Bisch

[reddogge]

A year or so ago I went from shooting arrows 28.5" to 30.5". The 28.5" arrows were 1535 with 100 gr inserts and 125 gr points. The 30.5" arrows are 3555 with 125 gr points and std. inserts. Ironically they both weighed the same and both flew with the same trajectory out of the same bow. It showed me there are many ways to skin the cat with carbon.

[KentuckyTJ]

Bisch I have never checked spines. I just assume they are what the manufacturer says they are.