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Author Topic: Help me make a 1000gr. + arrow.  (Read 813 times)

Offline BHTGdogs

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Help me make a 1000gr. + arrow.
« on: February 23, 2015, 09:15:00 PM »
I need to get a shaft to this weight for a bow I purchased. Any help is appreciated as this has turned out harder to do than I thought it would.

Offline ChuckC

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Re: Help me make a 1000gr. + arrow.
« Reply #1 on: February 23, 2015, 09:58:00 PM »
Well, as a last resort, wrap a 30 or so inch length of solder with wool yarn and stuff it inside the shaft.  Instant heavy.  I did this with an old Beeman hunter (the skinny shafts). It was around 1,100 grains.  

There WAS a problem.  The Beeman nocks were not strong enough to take the force of acceleration of that beast and two of them broke on release.

When the arrow hit the target, all of the barbs of the feathers bent forward.

I bet that thing would have fully penetrated a T Rex,
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Re: Help me make a 1000gr. + arrow.
« Reply #2 on: February 23, 2015, 10:14:00 PM »
Monty Browning used to shoot solid fiberglass fish arrows on his heavy bows.

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Re: Help me make a 1000gr. + arrow.
« Reply #3 on: February 23, 2015, 10:18:00 PM »
No problem.  What weight bow and how long?  What FOC preference?
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Re: Help me make a 1000gr. + arrow.
« Reply #4 on: February 23, 2015, 10:21:00 PM »
Quote
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Monty Browning used to shoot solid fiberglass fish arrows on his heavy bows.
He also used the skinny carbons Chuck spoke of, with a length of #12 solid copper wire inside.

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Re: Help me make a 1000gr. + arrow.
« Reply #5 on: February 23, 2015, 10:27:00 PM »
I assume you're shooting carbon shafts? If so, find an aluminum shaft that fits perfectly inside your carbon, glue the full length aluminum shaft inside the carbon shaft. I've heard this called a "double arrow". Yes, it will stiffen the spine but that mean's you can add even more point weight. I'd think 1000 grains should be pretty easy like that.

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Re: Help me make a 1000gr. + arrow.
« Reply #6 on: February 23, 2015, 10:29:00 PM »
Need actual bow model, specs and your actual draw length for starters.
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Re: Help me make a 1000gr. + arrow.
« Reply #7 on: February 23, 2015, 10:35:00 PM »
find two carbons that fit within one another (600 + grains, add 100 grain insert, and three grain head and you should be there.

saw this on an African hunting video if I can find it I will let you know the carbon combo.
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Re: Help me make a 1000gr. + arrow.
« Reply #8 on: February 23, 2015, 10:53:00 PM »
110# 28"

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Re: Help me make a 1000gr. + arrow.
« Reply #9 on: February 23, 2015, 11:22:00 PM »
Oh 110#s.  Have no idea for that weight bow but shouldn't be a problem.  I make 900 to 1200 gainers for my 71# recurve.
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Re: Help me make a 1000gr. + arrow.
« Reply #10 on: February 24, 2015, 12:30:00 AM »
BHTGdog, I have no experience with this, but if you are interested in trying a double shaft approach i have some old beman hunter shafts that may be helpful.  i have no nocks or inserts for them, so no use for them.
 
This Beman shaft fits easily into at Trad Only 340 shaft, or likely other lighter shafts taking the same insert.
 
 
always fun to have a few pictures. i imagine the weak point would be behind the insert, and would need to be footed. SPine ?   :dunno:
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Re: Help me make a 1000gr. + arrow.
« Reply #11 on: February 24, 2015, 12:47:00 AM »
A 2117 aluminum shaft with a 1916 shaft inside at 30" and a 150 grain head should put you in the ballpark.

You could also slip a small section of 2216 over the 2117 for a footing for extra strength/stiffness.
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Re: Help me make a 1000gr. + arrow.
« Reply #12 on: February 24, 2015, 08:27:00 AM »
I use a carbon shaft inside a larger diameter 2419 aluminum shaft with about 200 up front and these weigh in 1200+. Hit hard out of my 115# Hill.

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Re: Help me make a 1000gr. + arrow.
« Reply #13 on: February 24, 2015, 11:29:00 AM »
Fletch up some rebar  :)
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Re: Help me make a 1000gr. + arrow.
« Reply #14 on: February 24, 2015, 11:52:00 AM »
Easton dangerous game fmj 250s there 17.5gpi starting out. Drop in a heavy head some footers and you should be pretty dead on as well.
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Re: Help me make a 1000gr. + arrow.
« Reply #15 on: February 24, 2015, 12:10:00 PM »
I turned some ipe shafts a few years back that were 800 gr by themselves and about 110 spine.  If you want wood that would be an idea.

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Re: Help me make a 1000gr. + arrow.
« Reply #16 on: February 24, 2015, 01:00:00 PM »
My son uses hickory shafts with 200 gr. Ace heads and exceeds 1000 gr. easily.

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Re: Help me make a 1000gr. + arrow.
« Reply #17 on: February 24, 2015, 01:43:00 PM »
Alaska Bowhunting's Safari  will make 1200 grains with thier 315 grain points
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Re: Help me make a 1000gr. + arrow.
« Reply #18 on: February 24, 2015, 02:02:00 PM »
Fiberglass...or start with compressed Maple and foot with woodie weight...thick quilled heavy oiled feathers, and a heavy head.

I have some not to the extent above with a 135 grain head that weigh 780....regular fletch no woodie wieght no heavy head.
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Re: Help me make a 1000gr. + arrow.
« Reply #19 on: February 24, 2015, 05:56:00 PM »
Forester wood shafts, kevin can make you some shafts that will work
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