yeh Katman, I have taken this on with a ravenous appetite for proficiency. When i go to the woods this fall, if I am fortunate enough to get a shot, I want to be the best that I can be. I owe it to the animal and myself and even all of you on here that have helped me along. I began shooting the second week of Jan. I couldn't get a group at 10 yards. Now, i am grouping pretty well out to 15-16 yards. Decent at 20 and have even made some shots at 25. I shoot arrows everyday, some good days and some bad. I am having the time of life. I find myself judging distances and and drawing an imaginary bow and hitting my anchor on everything!