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Author Topic: Best practice for hunting? Is roving the best?  (Read 778 times)

Offline Keb

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Best practice for hunting? Is roving the best?
« on: March 29, 2015, 01:51:00 PM »
Ok, guys and gals. I've struggled in the past with picking a spot to shot on live animals.

I have ditched the bag and block targets with dots on them.

I got some blunts and been roving shooting leafs, clumps of grass and dirt clods ect. What ever needs shot.

My confidence and shooting have went up ten fold.

Let's face it deer not walking around with orange and black dots on them, so what's the point in shotting at them.

I'm talking pure hunting practice, I know there is no substitute for live animals.

But roving, shooting in the brush, sitting, knelling, bending, twisting seems like the stuff to be doing

Not shotting my 3 d deer target over and over in the same places

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Re: Best practice for hunting? Is roving the best?
« Reply #1 on: March 29, 2015, 01:57:00 PM »
My thoughts......yes!! But.....you still have to pick a spot. Don't shoot a stump, shoot at a point on the stump, like a knot or hole. Just fine tune your focus.........
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Re: Best practice for hunting? Is roving the best?
« Reply #2 on: March 29, 2015, 02:02:00 PM »
We have lots of ground squirrels here that we call gophers...I think the best way to learn to pick a spot on a live target is to shoot at live targets...they are also the ultimate string jumper which helps you to think about how an animal will react to an arrow coming at it...they blend in nicely making you look for detail to pick them out...which reminds me they should be out of hibernation now...time to check out my hotspots

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Re: Best practice for hunting? Is roving the best?
« Reply #3 on: March 29, 2015, 02:12:00 PM »
yup just shoot crows tree rats gophers and anything else ya can eat LOL!!
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Re: Best practice for hunting? Is roving the best?
« Reply #4 on: March 29, 2015, 02:41:00 PM »
Shoot at the smallest thing you think can see on a leaf, and then try to hit the left side of that spot. However, I tried to shoot at an obvious spot on a turkey, his eyeball. Turkeys can move their heads real fast.

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Re: Best practice for hunting? Is roving the best?
« Reply #5 on: March 29, 2015, 02:54:00 PM »
Best thing I have found is getting a 3d target. And practicing from a tree stand or ground blind or whatever suits you best. Make the practice as real as possible.
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Re: Best practice for hunting? Is roving the best?
« Reply #6 on: March 29, 2015, 03:52:00 PM »
My best confidence builder is shooting 3D from the same situations I'll be hunting...from elevation.

Those who said aim at small spots on whatever you are shooting are right on (pavan, etc.).  The biggest pit-fall of shooting shadows, dirt clods, leaves, etc. is that the entire item is often the object of our concentration. Then an "edge" shot on a small object is considered success. The edge of a deer is an arrow you'd like to have back.

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Re: Best practice for hunting? Is roving the best?
« Reply #7 on: March 29, 2015, 04:08:00 PM »
When I started in 1969, we would tie a card board shaped deer to bales of hay with NO markings on the card board except a light pencil out line for the vitals, which you couldn't see at 5 yds.

Once we discovered Judo's, all the practice we did was roving and stump shooting. I never shot a 3D course or at a 3D animal. The Muzzy shoot was very similar to my backyard practice, where at times throw out 8" squares of foam at unknown distances.

No matter where I'm practicing, roving or backyard, I shoot from kneeling, uphill, downhill and upright. All and any angles always picking a spot and bearing down. Like Ron W stated, shoot at a stump, pick a spot on that stump. For me, this is the best practice to keep me sharp for the fall.
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Re: Best practice for hunting? Is roving the best?
« Reply #8 on: March 29, 2015, 04:17:00 PM »
Some 3D tourneys enforce the foot-against-stake rules and make you kneel, shoot goofy foot, over and under obstacles.  Those are worthy hunter situations.  I like roving even better in places suited.  Here we have rocks, biguns--- hidden until one hears the tink,sparks flying, and the guffaws of those shooting with you
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Re: Best practice for hunting? Is roving the best?
« Reply #9 on: March 29, 2015, 04:20:00 PM »
Only thing better than roving to practice for hunting is small game hunting and I rove when I hunt anyways and if I find a good spot to shoot when I'm elk hunting, I GPS the spot so I can hit it on my way in to practice a little.
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Re: Best practice for hunting? Is roving the best?
« Reply #10 on: March 29, 2015, 05:20:00 PM »
To my way of thinking. .  re-read what Ron W said. Then, start playing the game, including the kneeling, between the bush and the tree etc.  Have a ton of fun and get better at the very shots you just might get at a critter.  Only thing better is roving, but using critter targets that are moved every time and placed in difficult areas.  Plain roving is easier.
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Re: Best practice for hunting? Is roving the best?
« Reply #11 on: March 29, 2015, 06:16:00 PM »
I dont necessarily think that roving is good hunting practice. Good shooting practice, yes, 100% my favorite form of target shooting. But there is so much more to successful traditional bowhunting than being a good shot.

  Any degree of success for me personally has come from putting in a lot of time with animals. Watching them on the side of the road, while scouting, hiking or any period of observation gives you insights into animal behavior. This has given me a comfort level around animals and alleviates some of the panic and adrenaline that comes with close contact with deer, pigs, bear, moose and even small game.

  Roving will give you great confidence in your shooting which I believe is a must but unless you have time on the ground with live animals the more  chance you have of going into "condition black" or extreme tunnel  vision leading to a miss or a wounding.

   Keep on stumping and roving, its helluva fun, and good but don't discount familiarity with  the game you hunt.

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Re: Best practice for hunting? Is roving the best?
« Reply #12 on: March 29, 2015, 06:50:00 PM »
I agree there is no substitute for hunting.

I study the animals and where to pick my spot.

But what's more realistic??

Me picking a spot on a big dirt bank in the woods  or shooting an orange dot on a giant back stop on a manicured target range.

That's kinda my question?

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Re: Best practice for hunting? Is roving the best?
« Reply #13 on: March 29, 2015, 06:59:00 PM »
Dirt bank in the woods all day long!

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Re: Best practice for hunting? Is roving the best?
« Reply #14 on: March 29, 2015, 07:50:00 PM »
I don.t know what is "best" practice for bowhunting, as you cannot  practice bowhunting like you can wing shooting, e.g, hundreds of  white wing doves in Argentina.  I know that a stumping rove with my bother in law today, shooting knots on stumps and trees, shooting  uphill, downhill, across gulleys. across ponds, though tight openings in the brush, 15-90 yards, was almost as much enjoyment as drawing back on a buck.
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Re: Best practice for hunting? Is roving the best?
« Reply #15 on: March 29, 2015, 08:22:00 PM »
How about all the above? 3D gives you a replica of a game animal thus allowing you to seek a spot on a close approximation of what will be seen in the field. Roving requires you to pick a spot at unknown distances on relatively small and oddly shaped targets. Dot targets require you to pick a spot at a given distance, ideal for form training. Moreover, all these practices are useful and require you to pick a spot, which is the essence of accurate shooting. Small game shooting is fun and very challenging. Mixing them up helps avoid boredom that comes from an non-varied training regimen.  Perhaps no single activity by itself is the complete solution to preparation.
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Re: Best practice for hunting? Is roving the best?
« Reply #16 on: March 29, 2015, 08:48:00 PM »
I like to mix it up personally.  Stump shooting, 3D shoots, range shooting, small game hunting.  Variety is the spice of life and since I don't know what my perfect animal opportunity in the woods will look like, I just like to be well rounded with my bow.
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Re: Best practice for hunting? Is roving the best?
« Reply #17 on: March 30, 2015, 12:06:00 PM »
Shooting small game is the best practice. I'll even shoot trash birds like starlings o kep me sharp in the spring and summer.

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Re: Best practice for hunting? Is roving the best?
« Reply #18 on: March 30, 2015, 01:46:00 PM »
I like roving myself for practice and fun but the absolutely best practice for hunting for me is hunting groundhogs. You'll get it all, weird positions, stalking practice, picking a spot on a small target, shooting broadheads, the adrenalin rush.
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Re: Best practice for hunting? Is roving the best?
« Reply #19 on: March 30, 2015, 07:41:00 PM »
I love to stump shoot. 3d targets, dots, blank bale are all good. If your going to hunt from a treestand, practice from one. Same for a ground blind.

But Izzy's right: There is no substitute for being near game.

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