I have better success when I know of fall flocks, not as many birds around here as there use to be for that, split the flock charge towards where they flew and do the old hen cluck. Last year I called from a basswood cluster. Something started to really stink, that is when I noticed a dead buck with a mangled carbon arrow in its shoulder that was at the bottom of a wash that must have been shot late in the season. I got up to move away from the smell. When I stood up I had a tom 5 yards away, right behind me. I must have been paying no attention at all. The next day I did not get a chance to call, I crossed paths with a suicidal turkey. It really helps to be able to shoot a longbow accurately and fast. With me slow shooting does not work, turkeys can pick up on any motion anyway, but there are times when it takes them a second or two to react to that motion. Back in the day I tried to hold my recurve up and draw straight back, because that is what was suppose to work. For me a rather quick half spread half swing draw works better for turkeys. With the lower turkey numbers getting them called in is tough. When an area is known to have some birds, it is known by all of the gun hunters as well, the callers and those pain in the butt run and gunners. The turkeys get scattered and they stop responding to any calling.