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Author Topic: 1 piece longbow for texas longbow championship  (Read 770 times)

Offline DanielB89

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1 piece longbow for texas longbow championship
« on: May 04, 2015, 08:11:00 AM »
Does anyone know the rules to the bows?  I have read some of what other people have said, but i would like some further clarification.  

Does the grip have to be a straight grip or can it have a little palm swell in it?  

do the limbs have to be perfectly straight or can they have a little r/d?

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Re: 1 piece longbow for texas longbow championship
« Reply #1 on: May 04, 2015, 08:16:00 AM »
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Re: 1 piece longbow for texas longbow championship
« Reply #2 on: May 04, 2015, 12:05:00 PM »
thank you for the response.

so the only rule on the limbs is that they can not touch the limb after being strung?  No rules about it having to be straight limbs?

what is a "pistol grip"?
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Re: 1 piece longbow for texas longbow championship
« Reply #3 on: May 04, 2015, 01:00:00 PM »
As long as your bow fits in the jig , they have, it's legal.  Look at the measurements Wingnut has provided. Measure the limbs at the point on the diagram, and you'll know. Reflex/deflex , a little pistol grip action. Doesn't matter. But it Must be a Longbow by definition.
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Re: 1 piece longbow for texas longbow championship
« Reply #4 on: May 04, 2015, 01:16:00 PM »
Well, I am going to buy one used and want to make sure I don't purchase an illegal one. lol.  

so no amount of reflex matters as long as it doesn't touch the limbs when strung?
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Re: 1 piece longbow for texas longbow championship
« Reply #5 on: May 04, 2015, 02:03:00 PM »
Yep if it fits the handle jig it's in the shoot.

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Re: 1 piece longbow for texas longbow championship
« Reply #6 on: May 04, 2015, 02:48:00 PM »
Couple Ideas...

21st Century Edge/ Lonestar
Toelke Whip or Super D
Wes Wallace Royal
Falco (various models)
Northern Mist (various models)
JD Berry

There are a number of others.  On customs like the Whip etc you can get a classic type grip.
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Re: 1 piece longbow for texas longbow championship
« Reply #7 on: May 04, 2015, 02:58:00 PM »
"No Pistol Grips" doesn't mean the grip has to be a broom handle.  If you aren't sure, contact someone at the shoot.  That's what I did.  I had no idea if my bow was legal or not based on the paperwork--I was afraid it wasn't.  Turned out it was just fine--dished with a palm swell grip.

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Re: 1 piece longbow for texas longbow championship
« Reply #8 on: May 04, 2015, 03:51:00 PM »
Howard Hill's long bows are fine with the possible exception of the "Badger". Massie "Longhorns" also pass muster, as will the "Longhorn" offered by Jim Belcher of Belcher Custom bows. I do not believe 3 piece long bows are allowed. Better check on that to be sure. Great shoot. Look forward to seeing you in Fort Worth.   :archer2:

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Re: 1 piece longbow for texas longbow championship
« Reply #9 on: May 04, 2015, 04:23:00 PM »
3pc bows are NOT allowed.

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Re: 1 piece longbow for texas longbow championship
« Reply #10 on: May 13, 2015, 06:43:00 PM »
How about a Thunnderstick MOAB, or the latest Bigriver model. Kind like a 21st.
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Re: 1 piece longbow for texas longbow championship
« Reply #11 on: May 13, 2015, 06:52:00 PM »
Wudstix, I think the bows mentioned will be fine.  Even my old 21st Century with the long riser is legal but not by much.

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Re: 1 piece longbow for texas longbow championship
« Reply #12 on: May 13, 2015, 06:58:00 PM »
Looks like my Black Widow and Tomahawk would both be "legal" then. I honestly don't get it though a traditional bow is a longbow of some type (straight limbed, mild D/R, Hybrid/ aggressive D/R) as long as the string only touches the limbs at the nocks and nowhere else. If the string on a traditional bow does touch the limb anywhere else it is a recurve of some type. To me it is that simple, but that's also why I don't shoot a lot of tournaments to many rules and classifications.
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Re: 1 piece longbow for texas longbow championship
« Reply #13 on: May 13, 2015, 07:24:00 PM »
Why no mention of riser cut? I understand it to be 1/8 proud. Does that not apply in Texas?

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Re: 1 piece longbow for texas longbow championship
« Reply #14 on: May 13, 2015, 08:46:00 PM »
Rules are rules. Maybe next year.   Big River looks a lot like a 21st Century.

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Re: 1 piece longbow for texas longbow championship
« Reply #15 on: May 14, 2015, 12:29:00 PM »
Texas came up with their own set of rules on this one....   :dunno:   That's no surprise really... I mean it is Texas...

But.....you'll find NFAA, IFAA, and IBO have different requirements.

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Re: 1 piece longbow for texas longbow championship
« Reply #16 on: May 14, 2015, 01:05:00 PM »
The riser cut restriction was removed a few years back after much discussion.

Build a jig to check the bow and just don't eyeball it.  If it doesn't fit the jig it's not legal.

This shoot has been around for a long time and the rules with it.


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Re: 1 piece longbow for texas longbow championship
« Reply #17 on: May 15, 2015, 12:35:00 AM »
Like wingnut said, the shoot has been around many years. Long before some of the current bow manufacturers were building bows. The rules have remained fairly consistent all those years with little exception. Probably the best longbow shoot in the state or at least used to be. I have not been in several years because I generally shoot recurves. The last time I went I shot it with a Massie Longhorn. Mark Horne also made a one-piece longbow I believe called a Brush bow that had a locater style grip that would make the cut. By the way, only wood arrows are allowed.
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