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huskyarcher
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Brass Inserts
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June 01, 2015, 07:55:00 PM »
Hey guys, i have seen for a long time in set up specs " brass inserts". I need to weaken my heritage 150's up a bit, and was wandering where you fellas arr finding these 100gr inserts? I may just be overlooking them, but i cant find much anywhere. My buddy owns a bowshop, and is looking to stock up on then as well and hes running into the sAme issue. Thanks for the help!
Dalton
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Carpdaddy
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Re: Brass Inserts
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June 01, 2015, 08:02:00 PM »
I use them in my carbon express 250's, got mine from Big Jim.
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Carpdaddy
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Re: Brass Inserts
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June 01, 2015, 08:03:00 PM »
I use them in my carbon express 250's, got mine from Big Jim.
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trx63
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Re: Brass Inserts
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June 01, 2015, 08:05:00 PM »
what are you shooting? they do not make they for all arrows. you should be able to find them at Big Jims, 3rivers, Lancaster.
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jt85
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Re: Brass Inserts
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June 01, 2015, 08:36:00 PM »
The Nocking Point and Big Jim's. I have them in all my arrows CE and GT.
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widow sax
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Re: Brass Inserts
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June 01, 2015, 09:20:00 PM »
Stickbow supplies Jerry Dieweese did not spell his last name right he is top notch along with the others already posted. One thing to remember is that all are not created equal. Gold tip makes some but they are a lot longer then the ones I have gotten from Big Jim and Stickbow. The longer they are the more it stiffens your arrow. The great thing about the ones I get from these guys is that the 50gr and the 100gr spines the same so you can shoot either one and not change you tune between the two. The longer length of the 100 stiffens the arrow as much as the 50 extra grans weakens it so it is a wash. The ones I use have a real thick shoulder rim on them the part that sticks out of the arrow adds a lot of strength to the arrow. So pick 50 or 100 or both and have at it the best way to add weight to a arrow up front. Widow
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Stump73
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Re: Brass Inserts
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June 01, 2015, 09:42:00 PM »
You can get them from BigJim.
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Re: Brass Inserts
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June 01, 2015, 10:58:00 PM »
Tim at Braveheart archery has em.
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AZ_Longbow
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Re: Brass Inserts
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June 01, 2015, 11:01:00 PM »
I got mine from 3rivers.
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KSdan
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Re: Brass Inserts
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June 01, 2015, 11:08:00 PM »
widow sax- I would like to know more about this. .. I have short 50gr and long 100gr and they spine quite different- not even close to equal.
I can agree that really long weighted inserts can have a different affect than the same wt. directly on the end. I just do not see your equivalence with the .5" differences. Educate me more. . .
Dan in KS
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Hummer3T
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Re: Brass Inserts
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June 01, 2015, 11:32:00 PM »
three river has them, use on all arrows I build.
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Re: Brass Inserts
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June 02, 2015, 12:18:00 AM »
If you happen to be shooting Gold Tip arrows, GT sells their own 100gr brass inserts. The other brands work too though.
Bisch
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elkken
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Re: Brass Inserts
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June 02, 2015, 12:48:00 AM »
3 Rivers …. I just bought some for my FMJ's
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Re: Brass Inserts
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June 02, 2015, 03:46:00 AM »
Have you tried thinning down your strike plate yet?
It doesn't take much to makeup for a 100 grains of point weight on a strike adjustment.
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widow sax
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Re: Brass Inserts
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June 02, 2015, 09:30:00 PM »
KSdan the brass inserts are from the same manufacture and in my gold tips and everyone I have worked with these inserts have had the same experience. I can take a 50gr and a 100gr and both arrows tune the same. I do not have any 50gr any more (settled on the 100gr)to measure the difference. My 100gr are 1 7/16" long from end to end. I paper tune my bows and they both tune the same you can not tell the difference they shoot the same bullet hole threw paper. I have had other people I know do the same and it was the same with there setup and others I have recommended it to on the trad sights. I do not know what inserts you have to be able to tell if yours are the same as mine or the same length I am not sure why you are not getting the same results. Widow
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KSdan
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Re: Brass Inserts
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June 02, 2015, 10:39:00 PM »
That's interesting. . . I have 100 gr that are about 1.5" and 50 gr that are half that length. They bare shaft very different from my 32" arrows. I used GTs pretty exclusive for a a few years. I now like the Heritage 350s (.320 spine). I use a modified version of O.L. Adcock's bare shaft tuning. I can easily bare-shaft H350s with 250gr up front out to 30yds.
Thanks
Dan in KS
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widow sax
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Re: Brass Inserts
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June 02, 2015, 11:35:00 PM »
If they are from same manufacturer there should not be that much difference in length the back end is not hollow for your tip to screw into so it does not take as much length to get the extra 50gr as it does to get the first 50gr. I do not like Gold tips brass insert it is way to long and stiffens your arrow way to much for my taste and forget the heavy aluminum they are way to long. Widow
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KSdan
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Re: Brass Inserts
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June 03, 2015, 03:01:00 PM »
widow-
I always use the same inserts. But I shave them down on a grinder to get the exact grain I want. I start with the 1.75" 100 gr. The 50 gr. comes out a little longer than half of the 100gr.
My former 5575 set up had 100s shaved down to 70gr. That 30gr made a big difference with bare shaft tuning. Once a tuned bare shaft is fletched, I do not worry about 10 gr variance on the tip.
So- there are basically 3 variables I use when I tune. 1) Spine of arrow. 2) Length of arrow. 3) Tip weight of arrow. (I know of rest alteration, brace ht. etc.- but I would rather not alter my bow if possible).
A 31.5" draw gives me little room for variance on 32" raw shafts. This leaves me primarily with options #1-Spine and #3- Tip weight.
Again- I am trying to understand how using 50 gr versus 100 gr was a "wash." Even 100gr to 70gr made a difference for me.
Dan in KS
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huskyarcher
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Re: Brass Inserts
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June 04, 2015, 01:00:00 PM »
Thanks guys! Excellent help as always. We found some great inserts, and have them on the way, also got a great idea with set screws from gooserbat, cant wait to try it all!
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