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Offline Looper

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tree identification
« on: June 12, 2015, 12:27:00 PM »
I've got a tree I'm going to take down this fall and can't figure out what it is. It's probably 35' tall, 16" diameter. I think it might be a Black Gum. I'm hoping to get several good staves out of it.

Here's some pics. Ignore the ivy growing on it:

   
   
   

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Re: tree identification
« Reply #1 on: June 12, 2015, 12:34:00 PM »
Persimmon
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Re: tree identification
« Reply #2 on: June 12, 2015, 12:44:00 PM »
Yep

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Re: tree identification
« Reply #3 on: June 12, 2015, 12:45:00 PM »
No, it's not persimmon. It has little blueish berries in the fall.

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Re: tree identification
« Reply #4 on: June 12, 2015, 12:48:00 PM »
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Persimmon
Bark and leaves do look like it.

Does your tree bear fruit?
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Re: tree identification
« Reply #5 on: June 12, 2015, 01:04:00 PM »
Yeah, small bluish/purple berries. It's definitely not a persimmon.

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Re: tree identification
« Reply #6 on: June 12, 2015, 01:07:00 PM »
hhmmm
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Re: tree identification
« Reply #7 on: June 12, 2015, 01:12:00 PM »
Ok-----Small Blue Berried Persimmon then....I'm never wrong, just ask my ex-wives    :D
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Re: tree identification
« Reply #8 on: June 12, 2015, 01:12:00 PM »
Probably is black gum then.
They both have similar bark and leaves.
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Re: tree identification
« Reply #9 on: June 12, 2015, 01:46:00 PM »
When I get "stumpted" with tree identification I rely on the Audabon Tree book for my region, very helpful and fun to use when out scouting.      Denny
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Re: tree identification
« Reply #10 on: June 12, 2015, 01:58:00 PM »
Black gum(Nissa sylvatica)aka tupelo
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Re: tree identification
« Reply #11 on: June 12, 2015, 04:06:00 PM »
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Re: tree identification
« Reply #12 on: June 13, 2015, 08:03:00 AM »
By the above link, it looks like you have a match. Is Tupelo good for bow staves?
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Re: tree identification
« Reply #13 on: June 13, 2015, 08:34:00 AM »
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Ok-----Small Blue Berried Persimmon then....I'm never wrong, just ask my ex-wives     :D  

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Re: tree identification
« Reply #14 on: June 13, 2015, 09:06:00 AM »
I have heard of black gum bows but I wouldn't cut a black gum tree for bow wood. I would take a stave or two to try, though.
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Re: tree identification
« Reply #15 on: June 13, 2015, 01:28:00 PM »
Sure looks like a black gum from the pics. A key feature in black gums is the limbs coming off the main trunk will almost all be at a 90 degree angle.

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Re: tree identification
« Reply #16 on: June 13, 2015, 01:53:00 PM »
Might also want to check sourwood-bark is similar to persimmon.  Flowers look like a line of bells hanging downward.  Berries are small and purplish.  Here's a video on IDing sour gum

 http://video.about.com/forestry/How-to-Identify-a-Blackgum-Tree.htm.  

Notice all the tiny limbs growing off the main limbs near the top of the tree.  The berries grow in clusters.
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Re: tree identification
« Reply #17 on: June 13, 2015, 01:55:00 PM »
Not sourwood. We have plenty of it here and I make some of my hunting arrows from sourwood shoots.
 Good call on the 90 deg. limb angle, Matt. That is a good ID tool.
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Re: tree identification
« Reply #18 on: June 13, 2015, 06:24:00 PM »
It's definitely a blackgum. A neighbor a couple of doors down is an arborist, and he confirmed it this morning. I'd leave it up, but I've got to take down a big pine a few feet away. With the way the pine will need to fall, It'll likely fall into the black gum.

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« Reply #19 on: June 13, 2015, 07:25:00 PM »
If you plan on using it for firewood get a hydraulic splitter. Black gum has interlocking fibers and is a bear to split.
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