Whip HS vs non HS ?

[1/4 away]

Is there much of a performance difference between the HS and non- HS Whip ? Thanks.

[Stickbow]

yes... My buddy (bdgr) is a long time whip shooter and his newest Whip, same poundage, cased him to increase arrow spine.

[TxAg]

I wouldn't balk at buying a used whip with the non-HS limbs if you found a good deal, but if buying new definitely get the new HS

[Florida lime]

Why isn't the 66" Whip available as an HS bow ?

[TxAg]

First it was the 58, 60, and 62. Recently the 64. Perhaps the 66 is next or maybe it's already perfected.

[Jim Wright]

Dan has made me a few of both. The H.S. Whip seems to have a slight "pre-load" and is probably a few fps faster. I have said this before but the H.S. Whip is I.M.O. the very finest bow I have ever shot yet I still shoot a Toelke Super D about 95% of the time, there is something magical about them.  Jim

[Steelhead]

The HS whip is nice Fred and it is definatly a fast shooter.Faster than the original Whip as would be expected.HS stands for high speed I do believe

It has a very crisp feel to it when shot.It dampens out quick and has little to no handshock.I think the very narrow deep cored limbs and diminutive tips help a lot in this regard.It has as narrow and deep a cored limb as any more aggressive hybrid style longbow available.

With my SBD string and wool puffs its very quiet
I think the longer riser helps with its performance/shootability.I like the 64 inch HS alot.I have not tried the shorter versions.

[tzolk]

The 66" Whip already has the amount of reflex it needs. I've inquired about this previously.
There is a different feel between the two versions of the same weight at full draw. I don't know if this makes sense but to my observation, the HS has a bit more of a springy feel at full draw vs the non HS, which is possibly because the tips are still opening. The same can be said for the redesigned Super D limb profile. Both Whip limb profiles are very likable imho and there is a bit more zip to the HS version.

[1/4 away]

Thanks guys for all your input. To complicate matters more there's a Pika on Dan's site that has caught my eye as well.
Decisions.....decisions.

[D. Key]

I've had both and I prefer the HS.  The original is sooo quiet though and has more of a "D" profile.  I recently won Dan's Pika on the St. Judes auction and look forward to shooting that one as well.  As you said; Decisions....decisions.  One good thing though, if any decision results in a Toelke, it will be the "right" decision.

Shoot straight (and often).

Can somebody tell me what the HS stands for, or explain what the difference in the HS and the non-HS is? I even looked on his website, and can't find it!

Bisch

[tzolk]

HS stands for high speed. Here is the difference in the limb profile between the non-hs and the HS.
Non on the left, hs on the right  

  HS on the left, in non-hs on the rt
   

[joe vt]

Todd, those are excellent pics to show the differences. Thank you!


I have a non-HS 2pc 64" Whip. I love it!

[shedhunta]

I own a HS and love it.  I do know from my experience watching the classifieds that the non HS whips seem to be up for sale for awhile vs the HS whips.

[Burnsie]

I got my 64" 2-piece HS Whip about a month ago.  When I ordered it I asked Dan to educate me on the on the HS model.  Before I could get the sentence out of my mouth, he said get the HS.  He said the changes they made with the HS version improved the bow overall.  He said they rarely make non-HS bow anymore.

[tzolk]

It's a little hard to see but in the pics, there is a little more reflex in the limb on the HS. Here ya go. I straightened out the two pics to give a clearer detail. HS on the right  

[TSP]

Toelke's are fine shooters regardless of the model and I certainly wouldn't base a purchase on speed alone.  Using a slightly lighter arrow can easily address the few feet per second difference that might be present...if that really matters.

[Burnsie]

Certainly wouldn't pass up a non-HS if it were for sale on the classifieds for a good price,  but if ordering new, no reason not to get the HS.

[the rifleman]

I just got my second whip it is a HS 42# and it shoots same arrows as my orig whip, a non HS 50#.  That said, I wouldn't part with either.  Dan makes the finest bows on the planet!

[nineworlds9]

Toelkes regardless of model are always a good decision.  I have tried all of Dan's models except the new Pika.  Love a Whip of any sort.  My favorite model to date is the Chinook.  If you have not tried one, but have been wondering, do it.