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Author Topic: Considering reintroducing the Wolverine  (Read 677 times)

Offline zipper bowss

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Considering reintroducing the Wolverine
« on: August 07, 2015, 10:04:00 AM »
Now that Grizzly is humming along at a manageable  pace. Since I have the dies I am considering reintroducing the Wolverine. The last version had a curved profile and I'm just not 100% sure if I want to stick with that or take it back to its former strait profile. Opinions??
Here is a picture of its last production form.
   

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Re: Considering reintroducing the Wolverine
« Reply #1 on: August 07, 2015, 10:22:00 AM »
I liked the straight profile better, but have not shot the convex profile. Did you get the rights to the Hawks talon  as well?
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Re: Considering reintroducing the Wolverine
« Reply #2 on: August 07, 2015, 10:28:00 AM »
I'm not familiar with that one Lucas. Any pictures?

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Re: Considering reintroducing the Wolverine
« Reply #3 on: August 07, 2015, 10:39:00 AM »
Yes, Please Bill, consider the original!

I have a first run sample that Harry passed out in Cloverdale to vendors and bought some from 3 rivers when they came out. Shot my first longbow buck with one. Guess that helps make em special to me!   :bigsmyl:

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Re: Considering reintroducing the Wolverine
« Reply #4 on: August 07, 2015, 11:02:00 AM »
Bill,

  That original looks awesome. I like a straight profile though for easier sharpening. I have never shot a convex. All I hunt with is your grizzlies so I am sure they will be a great head.

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Re: Considering reintroducing the Wolverine
« Reply #5 on: August 07, 2015, 11:32:00 AM »
When I used 2 blade heads, the Wolverine 145 gr? was my favorite.  I still have some I believe.
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Re: Considering reintroducing the Wolverine
« Reply #6 on: August 07, 2015, 11:36:00 AM »
I dunno.  The single steel thickness at the point seemed to contribute to the point area bending fairly easily.  At least they did for me. Maybe with a heavier steel, or beefed up some way.  I like the straight edge profile better than the convex.

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Re: Considering reintroducing the Wolverine
« Reply #7 on: August 07, 2015, 11:52:00 AM »
Thinking purely from a business perspective it looks a heck of a lot like an Eclipse and a Tusker.  I'm not sure I'd want to compete with them, especially at that price point.  I'm sure your quality would be exceptional but the other guys are really good to in that $25-35 range.  If you can keep the start up cost low with the dies your have maybe.  

I'm all for diversity in the market, but don't forget to take care of you and Tracy.  Spending more time hunting wouldn't be to bad.  Or hell you could break down and build me that quiver hood!

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Re: Considering reintroducing the Wolverine
« Reply #8 on: August 07, 2015, 12:00:00 PM »
I am also are more familiar with the straight line version of the Wolverine. The convex version shown was very similar to the Journeyman head.

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Re: Considering reintroducing the Wolverine
« Reply #9 on: August 07, 2015, 12:10:00 PM »
I liked everything about the straight version of this head but the single steel at the tip.  My vote would be for the straight version with a beefier tip.  Thanks for asking and good luck.

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Re: Considering reintroducing the Wolverine
« Reply #10 on: August 07, 2015, 12:46:00 PM »
Agreed Jerry.  The straight line version would break off at the tip if you hit heavy bone.  I had it happen on two occasions and stopped using them as a result.

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Re: Considering reintroducing the Wolverine
« Reply #11 on: August 07, 2015, 12:50:00 PM »
Looks good to me.  You would have to compete with the eclipse and price point will be a factor you have to meet.  A good 145 gr head should be popular IMO.

In my experience the convex head (eclipse)  is not particularly hard to sharpen and can be made into a pretty stout configuration for its weight.
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Re: Considering reintroducing the Wolverine
« Reply #12 on: August 07, 2015, 01:00:00 PM »
I shot a couple of elk with the Journeyman head years ago that were real dead.  LOL

I like the vintage look and with single bevel it could be a real nice head.

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Re: Considering reintroducing the Wolverine
« Reply #13 on: August 07, 2015, 02:03:00 PM »
I agree either configuration is good, personally prefer the straight but both work well. Your real problem is the single layer tip.
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Re: Considering reintroducing the Wolverine
« Reply #14 on: August 07, 2015, 02:36:00 PM »
In all honesty..

If I were thinking of a head of that shape and build I'd compare it with a tusker and may very well make my choice based on price....assuming the weight was about the same.
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Re: Considering reintroducing the Wolverine
« Reply #15 on: August 07, 2015, 05:02:00 PM »
I would love a nice thick tip single bevel Ace competitor!

Is there any benefit to a convex head? I know concave have some benefits, and I could list some for straight too. But I dont know if I have ever heard of any for convex? (though I love the old school look)

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Re: Considering reintroducing the Wolverine
« Reply #16 on: August 07, 2015, 05:26:00 PM »
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Originally posted by Biathlonman:
Thinking purely from a business perspective it looks a heck of a lot like an Eclipse and a Tusker.  I'm not sure I'd want to compete with them, especially at that price point.  I'm sure your quality would be exceptional but the other guys are really good to in that $25-35 range.  
Have you priced Eclipse lately?   they are not in the $25-35 range.

I don't think the head in the opening pic would have a problem curling the tip with the ferrul overlays that close to the tip. They could be extended to the tip without to much trouble I think.

I would be in for a journeyman style head if it is 160g+ and cuts 1-1/4" - 1-3/8" hole.

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Re: Considering reintroducing the Wolverine
« Reply #17 on: August 07, 2015, 05:34:00 PM »
Had/have some of Harry's originals 145 grain straight profile and never had a problem with them.  Sharpened up easily, held the edge and flew great.

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Re: Considering reintroducing the Wolverine
« Reply #18 on: August 07, 2015, 05:40:00 PM »
I remember sitting with Harry Elburg a couple or three springs ago and talking about his bows and broadheads...

He mentioned that had he kept the broadhead business he was planning to strengthen the tip on the Wolverine...

I have some of the originals from Harry's shop... never shot anything, but always thought that tip might be an issue contacting bone...

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Re: Considering reintroducing the Wolverine
« Reply #19 on: August 07, 2015, 07:05:00 PM »
I like the straight profile.
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