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Author Topic: Broadhead/arrow Setup for Elk?  (Read 1173 times)

Offline Basinboy

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Broadhead/arrow Setup for Elk?
« on: August 10, 2015, 11:44:00 AM »
I would like to hear from those of you who have actually killed elk with trad gear. Here are the 3 broad heads that are flying where I look on my Sitka Spruce arrows
3 Blade Snuffer, total arrow weight 470g
2 blade Simmons 480g
2 blade Magnus 446g

I'm shooting my Palmer Longbow, its 47#@ my draw of 26"
Which arrow would you the experienced elk killer recommend?
   

In my limited experience I'm leaning towards the heavier arrow with the 2 blade Simmons to get good penetration....
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Offline DanielB89

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Re: Broadhead/arrow Setup for Elk?
« Reply #1 on: August 10, 2015, 11:55:00 AM »
I don't have any experience with elk.. but i agree with your thinking.
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Re: Broadhead/arrow Setup for Elk?
« Reply #2 on: August 10, 2015, 12:32:00 PM »
I'd probably go with the 2-blade Simmons because it's the smallest blade and the heaviest arrow.

 Though you can kill an elk with that set up, I think it's on the light side. I shoot 6-10# more in a high performance bow (Wish I could shoot more.) and arrows in the 600 plus grain range.  And, yes, I have killed a few elk.

Can't say that I've ever zipped an arrow clean through an elk, but usually manage to get the broad head out the far side shooting mid-50s high performance bows, 600 plus grain arrows and 2-blade broad heads.

Get close and be selective and you should be able to get the job done.  Good luck.

Offline SAM E. STEPHENS

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Re: Broadhead/arrow Setup for Elk?
« Reply #3 on: August 10, 2015, 12:51:00 PM »
I'm useing the Simmons this year myself...

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Re: Broadhead/arrow Setup for Elk?
« Reply #4 on: August 10, 2015, 12:53:00 PM »
Wow-eee.  

Of the three, I agree 100% with Orion.  I know it can be done, but I've never witnessed an elk kill with anything close to that setup, as it's not legal here in wyoming.  

good luck and please do report!
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Offline Jack Skinner

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Re: Broadhead/arrow Setup for Elk?
« Reply #5 on: August 10, 2015, 01:07:00 PM »
If hunting WY that simmons looks like a barbed head which maybe elkbreath was eluding to, its illegal in WY. May want to get a G&F ruling on that head if hunting WY, not sure of any of the other elk states.

Offline Bjorn

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Re: Broadhead/arrow Setup for Elk?
« Reply #6 on: August 10, 2015, 01:14:00 PM »
My regular set up is a 600-650 gn Cedar or Doug Fir arrow with a single bevel 2 blade and my 50# bow. You need at least enough power to get through both lungs. I would definitely use a 2 blade with that weight set up. Bring your camera.

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Re: Broadhead/arrow Setup for Elk?
« Reply #7 on: August 10, 2015, 02:38:00 PM »
Sorry,  to be clear,  if in wyoming,  the bow has to be 50# plus,  legally.

However,  i've used Simmons heads for years,  and they are deemed legal
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Offline awbowman

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Re: Broadhead/arrow Setup for Elk?
« Reply #8 on: August 10, 2015, 02:40:00 PM »
Well, I know Corey Bailey and all he needs to know is which arrow WOULD y'all use.   It sounds like it would be the Simmons.

I'm predicting the following:

1)  He will have a dead elk in three days

2)  He will shoot it inside 20 yards; and

3)  It will travel less than 70 yards

The pressure is on Corey!      :biglaugh:        :biglaugh:
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Offline TxAg

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Re: Broadhead/arrow Setup for Elk?
« Reply #9 on: August 10, 2015, 02:47:00 PM »
From the pics I've seen, I'd say you are a great shot...and that's what counts. Good luck!

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Re: Broadhead/arrow Setup for Elk?
« Reply #10 on: August 10, 2015, 02:48:00 PM »
However, in all honesty Jack, I could see how the could be considered Barbed.

I've had my equipment looked over in past, using tree sharks, to no negative comment other than the token "what a broadhead" comment.
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Offline groyce

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Re: Broadhead/arrow Setup for Elk?
« Reply #11 on: August 10, 2015, 02:56:00 PM »
I'd try to up your arrow weight a bit. Maybe try some doug fir shafts. Elk are heavy critters

Offline Basinboy

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Re: Broadhead/arrow Setup for Elk?
« Reply #12 on: August 10, 2015, 03:06:00 PM »
I have been shooting a GoldTip 3555 with 100gr brass insert and a Magnus Stinger 150gr 2 blade head for a total arrow weight of 520gr. I'm accurate with it out to 40 yards. Though I'd really like to kill an elk with a wood arrow, I would hate to see my wood arrow hit an elk and only penetrate a couple inches and be dangling out its side as it ran off....
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Offline Michael Arnette

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Re: Broadhead/arrow Setup for Elk?
« Reply #13 on: August 10, 2015, 03:13:00 PM »
Dang, and here I am fretting about my setup 61@29" and 600 grain carbons. That's 600gr @ 180 fps and 44 foot pounds. Regardless, from the shot pics I've seen of yours it looks like your arrow should be true! Good luck

Offline awbowman

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Re: Broadhead/arrow Setup for Elk?
« Reply #14 on: August 10, 2015, 03:23:00 PM »
600 grains at 180 fps, WOW!!!!

Now that will PENETRATE!!!
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Re: Broadhead/arrow Setup for Elk?
« Reply #15 on: August 10, 2015, 03:44:00 PM »
same here michael, mine weigh 750-850 out of a 77 lb bow and I fret over every bit of it.

That's why it does my heart good when I see these seriously lighter bows come away victorious!

So, Corey, wherever your hunting, please report your success!
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Re: Broadhead/arrow Setup for Elk?
« Reply #16 on: August 10, 2015, 05:12:00 PM »
If I were going to pick one of the 3 I'd probably pick the Simmons.  

If you're concerned about the penetration and think you'd be more confident in a narrower profile head I have some Stos 160 gr glue ons I can send you. They should put you at the same weight and have a narrower profile that should yield a little better penetration.  I believe I have 6 of them, if your interested PM your address and they're all yours.

I'm sure the Simmons will get it done but confidence is the name of the game.

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Re: Broadhead/arrow Setup for Elk?
« Reply #17 on: August 10, 2015, 05:14:00 PM »
D. none of the above.

The gold tip sounds the best, not because its carbon, but because its heavier and has a BH better suited for deep penetration.

Its a long ways thru an Elk Buddy!

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Re: Broadhead/arrow Setup for Elk?
« Reply #18 on: August 10, 2015, 05:18:00 PM »
When I saw on the video that the 100# sow didn't get an exit hole at 5 yards with that set up, I would be frightened to shoot a mature bull elk with it!
I wish you the best for your elk hunt, and really waiting for the elk story.
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Re: Broadhead/arrow Setup for Elk?
« Reply #19 on: August 10, 2015, 05:23:00 PM »
I like the Gold Tip set up better for a number of reasons.  One, it's a bit heavier; two, it's skinnier than the woody; and 3, more of the weight is up front.  All of those things increase penetration.

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