Loud bow, help me

[rscornutt]

I'm stumped. I have a Bear Patriot, 64" and 45@28". I draw about 29, so I'm shooting close to 47#. The bow is fantastic in every way except one. It's loud. It came with a D97 string, replaced it with a Flemish twist fast flight string. I've moved nock height, gone to a calf hair rest, shot 400 and 500 spine arrows. I've put yarn silencers on it, which helped, and even added a set of cat whiskers with the yarn.

Brace height? I've tried the gamut, even bracing lower and higher than recommend.  I've never had a bow I couldn't get quiet. Maybe I'm overlooking something, maybe I'm thinking too much now.

Suggestions? I want to hunt this bow, it shoots like a dream.

[evgb127]

You tried different spine arrows, but have you tried different weights?  I have found that heavier arrows help to quiet bows.

[rscornutt]

No, I have used 125 gr. field tips for everything. I will give it a try. Thanks.

[Anointed Archer]

Try a Dacron D50 string instead of your fast flight string.

[Anointed Archer]

[Whitetail Addict]

On top of the the advice you've already been given, changing the position of your silencers can make a difference too.

Bob

[ISP 5353]

I had a Patriot that I had the same issue with.  I tried a couple of different strings and finally found a D97 by Big Jim that was quieter than the others.  I used fur silencers, but they were a little bigger than standard Beaver fur ones.  That quieted mine down enough to hunt with.  I tried heavier arrows and did not notice much difference.  Good luck!

[LBR]

Tuning, release (cleaner release = quieter), arrow weight, nock fit, silencer type and placement--those are the big factors IMO.

[RETARMY06]

Nothing against Bear, but of the bows I've owned (or currently own) the Bears were the loudest. I don't know why really. My most quiet is a 1959 Blackhawk Bee. My second most quiet is a Ben Pearson 58" Special (year unknown). In last place is my 1969 Bear Tigercat. I had a 1968 Bear Cub (semi-curve) that was insane loud. I wish I had a good answer for you.

[VA Elite]

My Super Ghost sounds loud to me, but I don't if it's just because Im the one directly behind it. After this season Im going to probably up my arrow weight considerably and see what that does.

[SuperK]

I have a Predator recurve that was loud.  I tried just about everything possible (padding the string with yarn, multiple string silencers, etc.) to reduce the noise.  I even thought about going to a B50 sting.  Then I met Allen Shafer (of Ten Ring Strings) at a  3D shoot in Virginia.  We talked about the problem and I ended up ordering a bowstring made from FURY.  I also had him tie on some cat whiskers.  Long story short, that FURY bowsting solved the problem.  Before you pull out all your hair, get him to make you a string. You will not believe the difference.  

[NothingHappenedToday]

Are you shooting split or 3 under? My Bear AuSable was very loud shooting 3-under, super quiet shooting split.

[rscornutt]

I shoot three under. I do shoot split finger on my 68" longbow.

[nineworlds9]

Originally posted by LBR:
Tuning, release (cleaner release = quieter), arrow weight, nock fit, silencer type and placement--those are the big factors IMO.

^This

Also, makes sure your string doesn't have excessive twists.  Forget Dacron B50, it may lower the tone but will just increase vibration.

[Stump73]

Could your arrows be hitting the strike plate or shelf making noise?

[MnFn]

Surewoods arrows were noticeably quieter than lighter carbons with one of my bows.

[9 Shocks]

Yeah I would try shooting heavier point weights too.  My guess is that your arrows are overspined. Even with a 500 spine arrow Id try starting with at least a 175 grain point.  I shoot 30.25" .500's with 200grains up front out of a 46lb bow but I only draw 27"s.  My guess is that you are still overspined and could try heavier points for sure.  Everyone has made good suggestions as well.

[kevsuperg]

Try for atleast a 500 gr or so arrow , that should help and silencers are a band aid to bow noise but I do use them.
 The right spot for brace, arrow weight and silencers are out there you just have to find them .
 What is your arrow set-up.

[Jon Stewart]

Give a 14 strand B-50 string a try.  You may have to put two sets of beaver silencers on it also.

[Yewbender]

B50 string, wood arrows, and try shooting split fingers. I shoot these on my 64 Grizzly and 68 Kmag with string silencers and it really quites them down. Good luck.