Matty, I was sitting about 3 feet to his right at that event at the sportsmans center. I had volunteered to sit in the UBNJ booth and we were right next to him. He became very angry at me when I kept asking him about that Widow and pointed out that the literature at his booth made it seem like he had shot 29 P&Y bucks with the XI when I knew he shot most of them with the widow. Later in the day I somehow managed to eat lunch with him, Stacy Groscup, Gene Bidlespacher and Gene Wensel. Talk about wich of these guys do not belong, I don't think I spoke the entire lunch break. I saw Stacy Groscup shoot a couple of aspirin out of the air with his recurve and do some incredible trick shots with a blowgun. He shot a dart into a bullseye, then he shot a second dart into the first and then a third into the second. He was a great shot.